^^^ could be true - but ive learned a ton from reading pat arnold & dan duchaine ...and neither one of those guys is/was by any means huge... size doesnt = knowledge.... you can learn from anyone. bgmc31 - im sure you can attest ..trainers in pro sports are by no means in the condition (in most cases) of the athletes they train - but they know how to get them there. Its the message - not the messenger....