Test-Enanthate Log

[seriousmass]

I'm curious as to whom you talked to about this cycle before you did it? Any reason to start cycling now?

Cool question.

To be honest I didn't really talk to anyone. When I was younger I was going to cycle, I think I was about 16 at the time -- because that's when all my friends were experimenting with AAS; nevertheless, I decided to lay off and continue to grow naturally. (and I'm really glad I did). But now, I'm turn 21 in a month, and I decided that this year would be an appropriate time to try steroids.

Now I know some people are probably reading this shaking their heads, going "seriously, if I had the chance to go back, I wouldn't have cycled until I was at least 25 + years old"... I know. And I do understand where you're coming from. But let me make this very clear, I researched AAS every single day for two months prior to jumping on my cycle, and I FULLY understand what I am doing to my body, and the long-term side effects I am imposing on myself.

So, ultimately, I did this cycle for personal gains. I'm not trying to impress anyone, I'm not trying to get more girls or anything stupid like that, I just want to experience AAS, and see how my body reacts to it.

[jbm]

Cool question.

To be honest I didn't really talk to anyone. When I was younger I was going to cycle, I think I was about 16 at the time -- because that's when all my friends were experimenting with AAS; nevertheless, I decided to lay off and continue to grow naturally. (and I'm really glad I did). But now, I'm turn 21 in a month, and I decided that this year would be an appropriate time to try steroids.

Now I know some people are probably reading this shaking their heads, going "seriously, if I had the chance to go back, I wouldn't have cycled until I was at least 25 + years old"... I know. And I do understand where you're coming from. But let me make this very clear, I researched AAS every single day for two months prior to jumping on my cycle, and I FULLY understand what I am doing to my body, and the long-term side effects I am imposing on myself.

So, ultimately, I did this cycle for personal gains. I'm not trying to impress anyone, I'm not trying to get more girls or anything stupid like that, I just want to experience AAS, and see how my body reacts to it.

Very reasonable bro...
Hope everything is doing fine!

[seriousmass]

Very reasonable bro...
Hope everything is doing fine!

haha thank you! you're all about positive reinforcement hey? thanks though

k so I'm leaving tonight for Jamaica! I literally just injected 500mg, (I loaded it into one shot)... for all your college kids out there, i hope you all have a great reading break. and for all your old-timers... well... have fun working. hahaha!

I'll be posting my 4th - 5th week pictures, as soon as I get back - Feb 21st. So yah, check out the log then. -- I won't be replying to comments, because I won't have internet, but feel free to keep posting away. CYA!!!

[Voltaire]

Very informative. ++ from a newb!

[jbm]

haha thank you! you're all about positive reinforcement hey? thanks though

Of course! You know what you're doing so why negative right? Just don't forget to post pics soon...
Before and after thing! LOL!

[seriousmass]

Very informative. ++ from a newb!

Thanks! That's what I was hoping for. I know it took me quite a while to figure out what AAS was all about... so I figured this log could help out a lot of people, and push them in the right direction.

Of course! You know what you're doing so why negative right? Just don't forget to post pics soon...
Before and after thing! LOL!

Of course. It's good to hear some positive comments. None of my friends know I'm taking gear. So the only things I hear are like "wow.. your diet is fvckin wack.. eat normal food." That's kinda what I like about this site, you get support from people who're doing the same things as you, and know how difficult it is.. not to drink, to eat healthy, and train ridiculously hard"... it defs aint easy lol.

K so finally... I'll still on vacation y'all. I just got a computer for a bit, and I'm bored so I thought I'd do a quick update. I'm currently weighing 184.9 pounds. So up approx ~3 pounds since last time I weighed myself (around a week ago). The workouts are going well, but I'm still waiting for that big kick I've been hearing about from gear. Hopefully it comes soon. Anyways, hope all is well with you guys! I'll update on the weekend, when I get back.

[nails4me2]

hey serious...great thread man! very informative...appreciate the time youve put into it as i am also on my first cycle of test e..deca..and dbol...good luck on your gains and keep us posted...also when do you think you will have some more pics up?

[Voltaire]

Hey dude have you had any more "roid rage" on the test? I'm just curious as to the amount it actually manifests itself pre my cycle, not that it would stop me :P.

[kiwijuice]

Hey dude have you had any more "roid rage" on the test? I'm just curious as to the amount it actually manifests itself pre my cycle, not that it would stop me :P.

dont even worry about it man, put it this way

if your an asshole normally, if you take gear your gonna be a ****in arrogant asshole

if your a nice guy normally, you will still be a nice guy

it just exemplifies what your normally like, just remember its the gear talking and not you so think before you speak/act and you should be sweet

[seriousmass]

hey serious...great thread man! very informative...appreciate the time youve put into it as i am also on my first cycle of test e..deca..and dbol...good luck on your gains and keep us posted...also when do you think you will have some more pics up?

Thanks buddy. That's a real strength cycle you got there. You should see some great gains. I'll have more pictures up in 4 days. I'm still on vacation right now, just waiting to get home to upload them.

Hey dude have you had any more "roid rage" on the test? I'm just curious as to the amount it actually manifests itself pre my cycle, not that it would stop me :P.

Mmmm... k well I just get irriated now, by things that usually wouldn't annoy me. Other then that not really. I just started snapping a lot at random things. I'm still really friendly and all that... it's just... things start to bug you more. anyways, good luck with your upcoming cycle.

[Emondo]

hey.. cool log serious! really enjoy reading... planning on doing the same cycle after i've done few more months research! I'm really curious though... and this question might be a bit personal... but like have your balls shrunk much yet? like would u really notice it? sorry for askin... i wouldn't mind if it happened me really but if the gf put her hand down and they were gone she'd be asking questions

[Voltaire]

my only issue is with working hospitality in a stressful environment. Serenity now i guess...
Get some pics up bro!

[seriousmass]

hey.. cool log serious! really enjoy reading... planning on doing the same cycle after i've done few more months research! I'm really curious though... and this question might be a bit personal... but like have your balls shrunk much yet? like would u really notice it? sorry for askin... i wouldn't mind if it happened me really but if the gf put her hand down and they were gone she'd be asking questions

haha... there is no such thing as an awkward question on my thread . the answer: not really. or should I say not yet! I have no doubt it will happen. But luckily I'm prepared.. HCG is stocked up!! hahaha.

(but as of now, me and the girlfriend have not noticed anything)

my only issue is with working hospitality in a stressful environment. Serenity now i guess...
Get some pics up bro!

Well yah, I've read articles were people have had to quit specific jobs due to steroids. Too stressful and too much pressure + internal anger = bad news. I dunno though... if your job is that stressful... then start doing some hot-yoga in the morning or something. lol, it could be your cardio for the day as well. pictures will be up tomorrow afternoon, or sunday evening. I literally just got home off the flight!

[Emondo]

lol thanks man... hope you enjoyed your hols! cant wait for pics

[seriousmass]

haha k so thanks for being so patient people. Here's my first set of updated pictures. I'm in week 4 right now, and I've gained approximately 10 pounds. Feel free to comment / I'm open to criticism, etc. Thanks in advance.

[Voltaire]

Looks good so far. Do you have any before shots for comparisons?

Re: Roid rage, I'll be loaded up with Valium in the pocket for work if its needed, also reducing the number of hours, and when i work, doing day shifts for stress free. Thanks for the advice bro, alot of people just ignore that aspect of it all and it was the most important to me. Need to keep my girl after all!

[Emondo]

good stuff! i'd do a bit more on my delts,traps an lats i think this would really give you more symmetry?, i think thats the word i'm looking for lol keep up the good work!!

[seriousmass]

good stuff! i'd do a bit more on my delts,traps an lats i think this would really give you more symmetry?, i think thats the word i'm looking for lol keep up the good work!!

haha.. thank you!

I'm definitely don't think I'm big or anything. I'm just happy with the results, because gaining 10 pounds in a month is amazing, since I haven't been able to gain that much weight EVER. lol. I'm still planning on packing on around 15 - 20 more pounds by the end of this cycle... to really make my body fill out. Hopefully all goes as planned right? haha. I'm going to continue to build on (and focus) on biceps, chest, back, and core.

[Voltaire]

Hit up some bent over row, deads and some heavy rear trap work. This = thickness!
Good work so far bro keep up the top work. Peace!

[seriousmass]

Pictures # 1 & 3 are pre-cycle
Pictures # 2 & 4 are 4 weeks into cycle

[honda450]

Looks like it's working for you. Lots more time to go though..

[seriousmass]

Looks like it's working for you. Lots more time to go though..

Yeah! lol. That's what I'm excited about, still over 6 more weeks. Thanks for the comment though

Update: I got terribly sick this morning. I think I caught this 24 hour flu that's been going around here... I've honestly been puking the entire day. I feel like I'm about to die. I haven't managed to eat a single thing today, and every time I try to drink water I puke it up almost immediately. keep your fingers crossed for me boys, lol.. this is definitely not fun times.

If I'm well enough to go to the gym tomorrow I'll update my weight... it feels like I've thrown up at least 3 pounds in water .

[Voltaire]

Can defs see a solid 10 pound gain there. Whole trunk looks thicker with the same definition, like carved wood. Crazy to see what your like at the end of the cycle. Peace for all the advice bro and a good thread. Keep up the training!

[kiwijuice]

looking good bro, keep eating or if you cant then make a heap of protein shakes.
iv just added dbol to my cycle the pumps are insane and strength is going through the roof
!! you thought about adding an oral in at some point ?

[seriousmass]

Can defs see a solid 10 pound gain there. Whole trunk looks thicker with the same definition, like carved wood. Crazy to see what your like at the end of the cycle. Peace for all the advice bro and a good thread. Keep up the training!

Man, that's great to hear when you're feeling ill. Thanks a lot man!

The results from AAS are actually amazing. I was really concerned about the bloat, but I definitely think that I have managed to gain lean mass so far.. that can probably be attributed to the diet though. Can't wait to throw on another 10 pounds in the next couple of weeks

looking good bro, keep eating or if you cant then make a heap of protein shakes.
iv just added dbol to my cycle the pumps are insane and strength is going through the roof
!! you thought about adding an oral in at some point ?

haha... yah I'm just pounding weight-gainer shakes right now, to make up for the lack of real food... but as soon as my stomach settles I'm really going to carb up hard.

That's good to hear about your cycle. A lot of my friends like to run d-bol.... and I was initially going to run it as a kick-start.. but I decided to save it for another time. Instead I'm going to be backloading my cycle (for the last 4 weeks) with injectable winstrol. I figure it'll be a really nice conclusion to my cycle -- I also think the winny will be really effective on making me as cut as possible, because I am already ~8% BF, which is within the optimal range for winny to work. keep me updated on your cycle k? I'd definitely like to know if you're able to retain the gains / mass from d-bol.

[kiwijuice]

yea i got the dbol for free off a mate, reckons it was underdosed im just running it at 40mg ed for first week then 20mg ed for next 3 weeks as thats all there is of it, i also have winny tabs 20mg was gonna run them for last 4 weeks of cycle at 40mg ed which i will probably still do, aim is to keep as many gains as possible and i believe adding the winny in at the end will help that and help get me nice and hard looking.

[seriousmass]

yea i got the dbol for free off a mate, reckons it was underdosed im just running it at 40mg ed for first week then 20mg ed for next 3 weeks as thats all there is of it, i also have winny tabs 20mg was gonna run them for last 4 weeks of cycle at 40mg ed which i will probably still do, aim is to keep as many gains as possible and i believe adding the winny in at the end will help that and help get me nice and hard looking.

oh really?! nice. i guess we are doing pretty similar cycles then hey? lol.

are you from NZ? beautiful country, I spend a month and a half there last year. I'd love to go back... if only the plane ride wasn't 17 hours long. haha!

Update: absolutely shocking. I lost over 2 pounds from being sick. I'm sitting at 178.4 pounds right now. TERRIBLE & SO disappointing. I must have puked up some major water weight / the inability to eat anything for the last 48 hours = some severe muscle atrophy. pretty lame.

[Voltaire]

I am pretty much going to run the exact same cycle as you mass so i'm going to be following your progress closely so keep up the posts. Hopfully the sickness passes and you can get back to training soon. Try some gatorade and a mass of vitamins, keep the water in the body as well as the salts you need. alternatively try a glass of hot water with 1 teaspoon of salt. This really works but sounds lame. do it three times a day if your pukeing. Be interesting to see the progress of the winny vs the dbol in long term gains.

[seriousmass]

I am pretty much going to run the exact same cycle as you mass so i'm going to be following your progress closely so keep up the posts. Hopfully the sickness passes and you can get back to training soon. Try some gatorade and a mass of vitamins, keep the water in the body as well as the salts you need. alternatively try a glass of hot water with 1 teaspoon of salt. This really works but sounds lame. do it three times a day if your pukeing. Be interesting to see the progress of the winny vs the dbol in long term gains.

Cool. And thanks for the advice, I'm taking vitamin C right now pretty much all day & of course the ordinary multi-vitamins, etc. I do feel better, I just need to get my appetite back... hopefully tomorrow? lol.

I'm sure you'll like the cycle. The test is finally really working for me. Today at the gym (even with the lack of energy) I managed to increase the weight on virtually all my sets for my back / bicep workout. I'm going to be posting all the new weights I'm lifting when I hit week 6, with new pics. -- oh one more thing... for all your big guys out there... I did 24 chin-ups in a row today yes, yes... perfect form.

[seriousmass]

Just injected. It went smoothly as always.

I got my appetite back.. wake-n-bake... LOL. I ate 10 egg whites, and 2 eggs for breakfast, with 4 pieces of whole-grain toast, and a banana. I felt like a starving Ethiopian. haha! Anyways, I'm off to the gym right now to hit shoulders and forearms.

[jbm]

Just injected. It went smoothly as always.

I got my appetite back.. wake-n-bake... LOL. I ate 10 egg whites, and 2 eggs for breakfast, with 4 pieces of whole-grain toast, and a banana. I felt like a starving Ethiopian. haha! Anyways, I'm off to the gym right now to hit shoulders and forearms.

Nice...

[ray0414]

i got sick about 2 months ago and lost 5 pounds over night, talk about depressing. took like a week or 2 to gain it back too.

[run_n_fool]

Pictures # 1 & 3 are pre-cycle
Pictures # 2 & 4 are 4 weeks into cycle

I'm not trying to slam you, but based on those photos, I do not think you were ready for a cycle.

[seriousmass]

I'm not trying to slam you, but based on those photos, I do not think you were ready for a cycle.

Thanks man. Good to know.

i got sick about 2 months ago and lost 5 pounds over night, talk about depressing. took like a week or 2 to gain it back too.

Pretty brutal hey? I actually gained 1.5 pounds in like the last 24 hours lol. I decided to do a loading-phase for creatine this week, since I was pissed about being sick / losing weight. So I'm bumping up the dosage to 20g ED for the next 6 days. That should throw on some more water weight (which is fine, because I have barely retained any water from this cycle, and I'm not running an AI... so I dunno.. I'm lucky) ha.

[kiwijuice]

what are the strength increases like ? what are your 1rm's ?

[seriousmass]

what are the strength increases like ? what are your 1rm's ?

I was going to save the comparisons for next week.. but I can give you a couple right now. (I need time, because I don't record my weights / set every workout.. I am terrible at keeping a workout log).

Bench Press:
Initial Weight: 185p
New Weight: 205p

DB Press:
Initial Weight: 60 - 65p
New Weight: 75p

Chest is definitely getting much stronger. Which reminds me.. I've actually changed my workout schedule a bit... I'm going to be doing chest twice a week now.. I feel like I was giving myself too much time to recover with my previous workout schedule.

New Schedule:
Monday: chest / triceps
Tuesday: biceps / back
Wednesday: abs
Thursday: shoulders / forearms
Friday: chest / triceps
Saturday: legs / calves
Sunday: abs

[ray0414]

so with your bench barbell, your max is 205 or your reps is 205?

[kiwijuice]

true, before cycle me dbs incline were 75 for reps now there 99 for reps squat was 290 for reps now its 380 for reps. strength increase are just kickin in hard now. its awesome think its the dbol. hey you need more rest days man try a 5 day split i grow the most on rest days

[seriousmass]

so with your bench barbell, your max is 205 or your reps is 205?

Sorry, my answer wasn't very clear. lol.. I'm repping 205 now. My inital max bench, prior to AAS was 225.

Have you started your cycle yet? or are you still going all natty ray?

true, before cycle me dbs incline were 75 for reps now there 99 for reps squat was 290 for reps now its 380 for reps. strength increase are just kickin in hard now. its awesome think its the dbol. hey you need more rest days man try a 5 day split i grow the most on rest days

Do you really think I need more rest? I've been doing a 4 / 3 split for the last six months or so... but I just decided to change a rest day to an extra chest workout, because I figured I only need about 48 hours for a muscle group to recover fully.

That's dope about the strength increase. D-bol definitely shows results immediately. Test took forever.. but I'm really liking it now. Everyday I feel stronger and more confident... as cheesy as that sounds. lol

[kiwijuice]

lol yea cheesy but i know how you feel, i just wanna lift more and more and get STRONG, yea i think you do need more rest, if your not growing at the rate youd think you should be up the calories more {how many you eating a day now} ?
rest more.
and lift heavier.