no problem man and ur right about winni-v it is from sdi labs. Its garbage. but winstrol is the real sh** supposedly that i think i should take in a month or two before i get down to 175 because im @ 184 right now and im barely 5'7. i wanna get to 160 and around 10% bf. i just feel like i cant lose anymore weight even though i really can. i run everyday and i've been stuck @ 184 for 3 weeks almost a month. Im trying a new diet tomorrow so we'll see how this goes over the next 2-3 weeks. I wasn't planning on taking the winstrol for another month till i got my tax money back lol Thanks for the advice though. Any other knowledge you have let me know man im all ears. Thanks again!