First cycle test-prop.

[WillECoyote]

Hi all this is my first post here but I have been busy reading all the stickies and decided to join and get an opinion on a cycle I am considering doing.
I can only get my hands on DBOL, DECA and testosterone propionate. From what I have read DBOL is not recommended on its own for a oral cycle, deca not recommended for a first cycle so that leaves the test p. Being my first cycle i would like to stick to just one substance.

My stats are as follows
34
6ft1
202 pounds
16% body fat

Been working out this time around 13 months solid but have worked out on and off for years.

I have a super clean diet I was eating 3700CAL but have bumped that up to 4600CAL, don’t eat junk food and don’t eat high sodium foods either. Sample of my diet

Breakfast - 7am
Oats 90g with full cream milk
4 x boiled egg whites with 1 TBS olive oil
1 x Banana
1 x Apple
10:00 Meal
Small block of cheese
2 carrots
Dymatize Elite Whey Protein Shake with Full cream Milk
Lunch 12:30
170g Brown Med. rice
Veg. Carrots, Corn & Broccoli (300g)
200g Lean Beef
1 tablespoon Olive oil
2:15 Meal
170g Brown Med. rice
Tuna 185g in brine
Dymatize Elite Whey Protein Shake with Full Cream Milk
Pre Workout Snack 4:30pm
2 bananas
1 apple
Post Workout 6pm
MAX'S Muscle Meal RTD (POST WORKOUT SHAKE)
Dinner 7pm
Veg. Carrots, Corn & Broccoli (300g)
200g Lean Beef
2 slices of Brown Wholegrain bread
Bed time 10-11pm
Dymatize Elite Whey Protien Shake with Full cream Milk

and in between all that there are countless glasses of water.

I train
Monday- Tuesday train
Wednesday off
Thursday Friday train
Saturday Sunday off

Cycle:

1-12wk - 500mg/wk Testosterone propionate
14-18wk - PCT Nolva 20mg (day)
19 wk - PCT Nolva 10mg (day)

Goal: gain 20-25 pounds any extra is a bonus

The questions I have are:
Due to its ester does it need to be injected more frequently than say Cypionate?
If so how ofen and how much at a time?
When i was younger (22) i had sensative nipples and all the symptoms of gyno so I would like to use something during my cycle just in case. What’s recomended for my cycle how much and how often..

I have tried to give as much information as possible if I have forgotten anything let me know.

Look forward to hearing from you guys.

[seriousmass]

1.) it needs to be injected every single day. test cyp only has to be injected twice a week.

2.) if you're doing 500mg a week.. you should do around 65mg - 70 each day

3.) get an AI to aid with the gyno during cycle.

.... good luck. prop is going to hurt like hell for a first timer. make sure you rotate the injection spots, you don't want to build scar-tissue, due to frequent injections..

[jbm]

1.) it needs to be injected every single day. test cyp only has to be injected twice a week.

2.) if you're doing 500mg a week.. you should do around 65mg - 70 each day

3.) get an AI to aid with the gyno during cycle.

.... good luck. prop is going to hurt like hell for a first timer. make sure you rotate the injection spots, you don't want to build scar-tissue, due to frequent injections..

Welcome back bro!

[Mammon]

The questions I have are:
Due to its ester does it need to be injected more frequently than say Cypionate?
If so how ofen and how much at a time?
When i was younger (22) i had sensative nipples and all the symptoms of gyno so I would like to use something during my cycle just in case. What’s recomended for my cycle how much and how often..

I have tried to give as much information as possible if I have forgotten anything let me know.

Look forward to hearing from you guys.

1) yes.. ed or eod
2) an AI.. like adex/ldex .25ed

pct id use clomid and nolvadex

[Mammon]

damn im slow

[CHUCKYthentic]

welcome!
test p is a short ester, so requires every or every other day injections
some wouldnt recommend prop for a 1st cycle for that simple fact
you will need to add clomid into that pct, id sugest this:
wk 1: 100mg clomid and 40mg nolva everyday
wk 2-4: 50mg clomid and 20mg nolva everyday
as for the gyno, get some arimidex to have in case symptoms start to arise, or you can run it every other day .25 or .5 mgs as a precautionary

[CHUCKYthentic]

damn im slower, cant watch tv and type haha

[Jfew44]

I'd get that bf% down before starting your cycle. If you have sensitive nips, I'd get down to 10-12% at least. You are also going to want to run an ai throughout. Also you're going to want to start your PCT 3 days after your last prop injection.

[T-MOS]

also PCT for Test Prop would start 3 days after last injection , not two weeks, thats for Test E

[jbm]

PCT for test p should start 3 days after last injection bro...

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=94822

[WillECoyote]

My error I had my cycle based on test-e and forgot to update the start time of my PCT for test-p to 3 days.

Thanks for all the great advice guys ill take it all into consideration and plan my cycle around that.. Im also going to see if I can get my hands on some test enanthate so I can inject it once a week instead of every day.

Thanks again.

[Jfew44]

Even if you get the test e, I would still recommend shooting it 2x/week to minimize sides.

[Phate]

personally i think you rely waaayyy too much on protein powders and such

[WillECoyote]

Minus the protien powders I still eat 220g of protein a day. But yer im really starting to get over the protein shakes but they are a quick source of protien and amino acids.

[Phate]

Minus the protien powders I still eat 220g of protein a day. But yer im really starting to get over the protein shakes but they are a quick source of protien and amino acids.

i agree with that, just something i noticed because they really are overrated and unnecessary IMO, i used to carry them with me everywhere, but now i just keep a tub of oats, water, cups, spoons, splenda, and tuna packets in the trunk of my car, good clean meal anytime i need it

[hagaman]

I'm 4 weeks in to my test prop cycle and really enjoying it. I'm pinning 175 mg eod and feel more agressive on days I pin, maybe it's just mental. Next cycle I will try ed injections. Either way....enjoy the ride bro.

[seriousmass]

Welcome back bro!

haha thanks

[WillECoyote]

I'm 4 weeks in to my test prop cycle and really enjoying it. I'm pinning 175 mg eod and feel more agressive on days I pin, maybe it's just mental. Next cycle I will try ed injections. Either way....enjoy the ride bro.

Where are you pining it? Are you sore at all? Was on the phone with the guy getting me the gear and he tells me to do the bum cheeks and shoulders!

Whats yor PCT look like?

[Nizz]

So is a test prop only cycle good for someone if they are looking to do only one compound and it isnt their first cycle?