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    I think you should continue your research...


    If you had researched a 'super long time' then you would know that 20yrs old is WAY too young to begin AAS use. You will most likely permanatly damage your HPTA.

    You would also know that your BF% is entirely too high to begin a cycle. You are risking more estrogen related sides than normal.

    And finally, since your BF% and weight is off, your diet must be as well.

    Like i said, more research bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WARMachine View Post
    I think you should continue your research...


    If you had researched a 'super long time' then you would know that 20yrs old is WAY too young to begin AAS use. You will most likely permanatly damage your HPTA.

    You would also know that your BF% is entirely too high to begin a cycle. You are risking more estrogen related sides than normal.

    And finally, since your BF% and weight is off, your diet must be as well.

    Like i said, more research bro.
    Honestly I've been researching for 2 years now, and I pretty know what I'm doing. I know it's a bit early to start AAS but I've been at a plateau for quite some time. I've always been a hard/strict dieter. 15 %BF is an estimate with calipers it is a little high but I can clearly see the top 4 packs. I'm running Nolvadex on cycle just for the bloating/estrogenic problems your talking about to minimize them if ANY. One last thing, this is my first and last cycle I'll be doing..I just need a slight push out of my FREAKIN plateau. I'm running Clomid on cycle just to be on the safe side and keep my HPTA from totally shutting down. Anyways thanks for the info and the reply m8.
    Appreciate it!

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    My detailed Diet

    2 Tuna chunks
    225 gm banana

    200gm brown rice
    176gm chicken

    Protein bar (PWO)
    30 gm Whey Portein(PWO)

    200gm brown rice
    176 chicken
    140 gm broccli

    200gm brown rice
    176 chicken

    400gm lowfat Yoghurt

    Totals: 3000 Calories, 300 gm protein, 250 gm carbs, 62.8 gm fat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muscleking89 View Post
    Honestly I've been researching for 2 years now, and I pretty know what I'm doing. I know it's a bit early to start AAS but I've been at a plateau for quite some time. I've always been a hard/strict dieter. 15 %BF is an estimate with calipers it is a little high but I can clearly see the top 4 packs. I'm running Nolvadex on cycle just for the bloating/estrogenic problems your talking about to minimize them if ANY. One last thing, this is my first and last cycle I'll be doing..I just need a slight push out of my FREAKIN plateau. I'm running Clomid on cycle just to be on the safe side and keep my HPTA from totally shutting down. Anyways thanks for the info and the reply m8.
    Appreciate it!
    Doesnt seem like u know what ur doing by saying ur taking 20mg ed of nolva throughout cycle. Whats that gonna do for u, oh thats right inhibit any possible gains making the cycle useless. Research more bro. U taking anything to cut or just diet and only usin aas to maintain what muscle u do have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wukillabee View Post
    Doesnt seem like u know what ur doing by saying ur taking 20mg ed of nolva throughout cycle. Whats that gonna do for u, oh thats right inhibit any possible gains making the cycle useless. Research more bro. U taking anything to cut or just diet and only usin aas to maintain what muscle u do have?
    I'm using test to hold on to my muscles..and btw..I'm not takin Nolvadex everyday..I'm takin arimidex eod and keepin my nolva on hand..At the begining my only solution was to take Nolvadex because I couldn't find arimidex! But I managed to find it so I'm taking it eod and nolva is on hand. As for the fat loss..I'm just relying on a strict diet/cardio/super intense wokrouts and ofcourse aas. I will edit my first post so that it matches what I'm currenlty doing..
    Feel free to ask anythin else!
    Cheers

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    Hey muscleking, they should make you a moderator, seems like you know your sh*t!!!!!


    LOL!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muscleking89 View Post
    I'm using test to hold on to my muscles..and btw..I'm not takin Nolvadex everyday..I'm takin arimidex eod and keepin my nolva on hand..At the begining my only solution was to take Nolvadex because I couldn't find arimidex! But I managed to find it so I'm taking it eod and nolva is on hand. As for the fat loss..I'm just relying on a strict diet/cardio/super intense wokrouts and ofcourse aas. I will edit my first post so that it matches what I'm currenlty doing..
    Feel free to ask anythin else!
    Cheers
    Yeah well i can assure you on 250mg test you wont have any bloat and will not need any kind of serm or ai on cycle. Really no reason to take the arimi on cycle eod like you are. Just wasting your ai and any test from doing what you want it to do. Again, its your first cycle so you dont know how you respond. How will you know if your taking all these precautions ahead of time? Also, its 250mg of test a week bro. Seriously!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wukillabee View Post
    Yeah well i can assure you on 250mg test you wont have any bloat and will not need any kind of serm or ai on cycle. Really no reason to take the arimi on cycle eod like you are. Just wasting your ai and any test from doing what you want it to do. Again, its your first cycle so you dont know how you respond. How will you know if your taking all these precautions ahead of time? Also, its 250mg of test a week bro. Seriously!
    I agree 100%. I dunno why the hell you would be running the A.I... you don't even know if you are gyno prone yet. lol.

    ... I also noticed you edited your original post yesterday, and you say 500mg EW now... is that correct or what?

    ... you're overtraining as well. cut down the number of sets, and increase weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seriousmass View Post
    I agree 100%. I dunno why the hell you would be running the A.I... you don't even know if you are gyno prone yet. lol.

    ... I also noticed you edited your original post yesterday, and you say 500mg EW now... is that correct or what?

    ... you're overtraining as well. cut down the number of sets, and increase weight.
    I know, seems like a big mess from someone with 2yrs of research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seriousmass View Post
    I agree 100%. I dunno why the hell you would be running the A.I... you don't even know if you are gyno prone yet. lol.

    ... I also noticed you edited your original post yesterday, and you say 500mg EW now... is that correct or what?

    ... you're overtraining as well. cut down the number of sets, and increase weight.
    It's 500mg EW yeah so I have to use an AI as I'm a bit gyno pro cuz I'm an ex-fatty and it runs through the family and I want to keep the water/bloat away as this is a cutting cycle. I'm gonna reduce my sets as of next wk I guess I was just carried away by the JUICE as its my first cycle.

    Thx bra!
    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by wukillabee View Post
    Yeah well i can assure you on 250mg test you wont have any bloat and will not need any kind of serm or ai on cycle. Really no reason to take the arimi on cycle eod like you are. Just wasting your ai and any test from doing what you want it to do. Again, its your first cycle so you dont know how you respond. How will you know if your taking all these precautions ahead of time? Also, its 250mg of test a week bro. Seriously!
    Hey brah..it's 500mg E/w
    Read please!
    Cheers

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