oh yeah some other tidbits:

during the cold war the U.S. government irradiated an entire town to see the effects of radiation of the health of the population. it was just research in case of nuclear attack. I guess too bad for the children who never knew hunh? or what about the black prisoners who were infected with syphilus and left untreated so we could get reserarch in case our servicemen got VD from hookers while deployed? THESE WERE US CITIZENS! makes me sick. And people ask me why I don't trust the government or anything a politician says. Just like my father in vietnam. listening to a radio broadcast of the president saying we have no warplanes flying missions while working on a 101 supersabre back from a bombing run.

This is not to imply that I am not a patriot. Its just that I have a vision of what are country could and should be, and also what we really are. The gap is too wide for my comfort. But thats why americans need to stand up for whats right and ethical and put the metal to the meat for our principles.