Help, I don't know what I need

[Mammon]

there is no majic pill..
just how much research have you done?
you know anything about basic beginner cycles, anti-e's pct?
not going to spoon feed your ass..
come with something.. have a plan, lay it out.. then possibly we would take a look.
still think your to young.. now i think your lazy too.. want the quick fix.. there is no such thing as a quick fix.

[LyricaBuzz]

there is no majic pill..
just how much research have you done?
you know anything about basic beginner cycles, anti-e's pct?
not going to spoon feed your ass..
come with something.. have a plan, lay it out.. then possibly we would take a look.
still think your to young.. now i think your lazy too.. want the quick fix.. there is no such thing as a quick fix.

I am not looking for a quick answer, I just want help....I know that winstrol causes strength increases without excess weight-gain. Promotes increases in vascularity, and will not convert to estrogen. Does not cause excess water retention and may have a diuretic effect on the body. What I really want to know is should I start with a cutting steriod and then move to a bulking steriod like Dbol or the other way around. I have a little pudge on my stomach but nothing bad at all. I wanna be cut with a fair amount amount of bulk..