They're "not giving up the ability to defend themselves" this is a transparent excuse for continued apartheid and occupation. On one side of the WB is Jordan, a country that has been most cooperative on security obligations since it signed a peace treaty with Israel in the 1990's and even before that. The WB itself will not have an army with tanks, artillery, or warplanes (demilitarized) and Israels military remains more than capable and they have nuclear weapons, the notion of a conventional Arab invasion, after a deal is made is fanciful. In fact a comprehensive deal will likely move Syrian artillery and military forces further away from Israel than they are now, Syria is the only remaining conventional military threat to Israel, with the Egyptian Army removed from the Sinai ..and none of this was a problem in 1967? so just what the hell are you talking about?

What you people are talking about is a demographic threat, that if Israel is gives Palestinians freedom of movement, and freedom in general the jewish state thing will eventually collapse as the result of Palestinians flooding in thru east Jerusalem or something like that, but that's a police issue to make sure day laborers go home, and that never happened in the 1970s 80s or 90s when infiltration into Israel was relatively easy.. the "extreme politics" in Palestinian society clearly increased as Israel increased repression, particularly jewish only colonies and roads and military checkpoints and all kinds of restrictions on who and why someone can travel just to another town in the west bank or Jerusalem . and Gaza-where there is the most anger, has been cut off from both israel and the west bank for 60 years.



Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post
Sure, what's in a name I guess.

Do you really think they would ever be so short sited as to blow up a bus? No, the peace will last for years and as I stated before Israel will be made indefensable. Exteme politics are too deep rooted to expect a culural shift.

Give up your ability to defend yourself in hopes that your enemy won't destroy you? Is that how the "elite forces" operate?