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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier View Post
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    Here we go again, you will find that IS can be argumentative for the sake of it and please take his advice with a large pinch of salt.

    As for progesterone related gyno needing estrogen, well there is estrogen, he;s using test for god sake.
    Nolva is a SERM, if you know what that acronym means.
    There are two types of estrogen receptors in breast tissue nolva cannot block them both because it's Selective.
    Nolva does upregulate Pgr, read it's pharmacology profile in the medical papers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LATS60 View Post
    Here we go again, you will find that IS can be argumentative for the sake of it and please take his advice with a large pinch of salt.

    As for progesterone related gyno needing estrogen, well there is estrogen, he;s using test for god sake.
    Nolva is a SERM, if you know what that acronym means.
    There are two types of estrogen receptors in breast tissue nolva cannot block them both because it's Selective.
    Nolva does upregulate Pgr, read it's pharmacology profile in the medical papers.
    Like I said, it can be debated, I didn't say you were wrong I said there is conflicting views and information on that subject. I don't want to get into another argument in another person's thread. Mammon can explain it better than I can.

    I am surprised you can read my posts, I thought you ignored me.
    Last edited by Immortal Soldier; 03-29-2009 at 02:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier View Post
    Like I said, it can be debated, I don't want to get into another argument in another person's thread. Mammon can explain it better than I can.
    That wasn't all you said, i'll get mammon over here, we are both in agreement and have discussed this many times, at the end of the day i said it could POSSIBLY aggravate the gyno, so why take the risk????????

    I took you off my ignore list so i could correct some of the misinformation you give out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LATS60 View Post
    That wasn't all you said, i'll get mammon over here, we are both in agreement and have discussed this many times, at the end of the day i said it could POSSIBLY aggravate the gyno, so why take the risk????????

    I took you off my ignore list so i could correct some of the misinformation you give out.
    Ok, you said that it isn't smart to run nolva and 19-nor's because it can upregulate PGr which could aggravate gyno. Correct?

    If that is what you said, I agree it can POSSIBLY aggravate the gyno, however, before the whole "novla and 19-nor" idea came out people were running nolva fine, I have used nolva on 19-nor's, people I know have, and mammon has as well.

    Now there could be a small % of users who do get gyno aggravated from running nolva on 19-nor's, the pathway which can lead to it is not exactly layed out completely.

    The better question would be why this user doesn't have caber or bromo on hand if progesterone gyno could even be an issue.

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