then here's some info for you
dbol and drol are synergistic when taken at the same time(for example taking 100mg of anadrol and 40-50mg of dbol) to kickstart a cycle, but you don't want to use orals for more than 4-5 weeks(with the exception of tbol and anavar which are very mild)
the problem with orals is that they are harsh on the liver, so to protect the liver you take things like liv52, but liver protectors like this actually decrease the effectiveness of the oral steroids by messing with the nuclei positioning of the androgen receptor(i'm gonna have to double check that, cause i think one part of that is wrong)