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    I disagree that diet creates body shapes, nature does. No matter how much you eat of the right stuff your not going to look like frank zane if you 6ft 2 with massive bone structure. I agree that diet plays a major part in the development of the individual but does not create the individual.

    E.g. 5ft 10 guy with small shoulder width and small wrists, tendons and muscle bellies
    vs a 5ft 10 guy with large shoulder width and large wrist, tendons and muscle bellies.

    These dimensions cannot be changed and therefore the natural progressions in size are going to be rather different even if they eat the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by learnerdriver View Post
    I disagree that diet creates body shapes, nature does. No matter how much you eat of the right stuff your not going to look like frank zane if you 6ft 2 with massive bone structure. I agree that diet plays a major part in the development of the individual but does not create the individual.

    E.g. 5ft 10 guy with small shoulder width and small wrists, tendons and muscle bellies
    vs a 5ft 10 guy with large shoulder width and large wrist, tendons and muscle bellies.

    These dimensions cannot be changed and therefore the natural progressions in size are going to be rather different even if they eat the same.
    not quite true, you can easily change these things

    i would still like to see your diet because the bottom line is this, at 6ft tall you should be much more than 166lbs before you cycle(i know you said you aren't going to cycle) so this means that either: your diet is off, your training is off, you have a condition that makes it very difficult to gain weight(hyperthyroidism for example) or a combination of the three

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    not quite true, you can easily change these things

    i would still like to see your diet because the bottom line is this, at 6ft tall you should be much more than 166lbs before you cycle(i know you said you aren't going to cycle) so this means that either: your diet is off, your training is off, you have a condition that makes it very difficult to gain weight(hyperthyroidism for example) or a combination of the three
    Agreed

    Not to mention your body is symmetric both height wise and width wise. If you spread your arms out and measure from tip to tip you get your height.

    So to widen yourself is def possible by doing correct shoulder/back exercises. Most average lifters don't give back the attention it deserves, it's a shame it makes you like a hell of a lot bigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by learnerdriver View Post
    I disagree that diet creates body shapes, nature does. No matter how much you eat of the right stuff your not going to look like frank zane if you 6ft 2 with massive bone structure. I agree that diet plays a major part in the development of the individual but does not create the individual.

    E.g. 5ft 10 guy with small shoulder width and small wrists, tendons and muscle bellies
    vs a 5ft 10 guy with large shoulder width and large wrist, tendons and muscle bellies.

    These dimensions cannot be changed and therefore the natural progressions in size are going to be rather different even if they eat the same.
    You misunderstood what I meant and after re-reading that particular part I worded it poorly. I agree genitics determine your frame and metabolism. What I meant is you can add muscle, thickness, etc no matter what type of frame or bodytype you have. The bodytype you have determines the kind of diet you should follow.

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