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    Quote Originally Posted by mooseman33 View Post
    you most certainly can complain about a guy who has not been in long. we all should not forget who was the leader of the liberals, howard dean, the guy is nuts...the repubs are in bad shape, due to the fact they have left there conservative base, but they are returning, and if they dont, so be it, gone should be the days of a 2 party system...
    obama promised to put the best people in positions when running, that has not even come close, half of his nominees are backwards on taxes, and not one person should stand behind his choice for treasury....
    the stimulus was bs, how many million to acorn, how many million to replace wooden boats in hawaii? cmon, they both ran on zero pork, this bill has more pork in it then a pig farm..wastefull spending at its best...
    and one more thing...Nanci pelosi is the devil...
    That's typical republican rhetoric about the stimulus package. Which package are you referring to, there were two. Did you not realize that almost half of the pork in the original package was from Republicans?

    What does Howard Dean have to do with Obama? You're nitpicking and looking simply like a sore-loser. 2 months is hardly enough time for anyone to turn around this shit storm we are in. But again, complain away. For people like you, he'll never be successful. But that's the benefit of living in this great country. For eight years (under Bush), I was just like you. No matter what Bush did, it was wrong, IMO. Now the shoe is on the other foot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31 View Post
    That's typical republican rhetoric about the stimulus package. Which package are you referring to, there were two. Did you not realize that almost half of the pork in the original package was from Republicans?

    What does Howard Dean have to do with Obama? You're nitpicking and looking simply like a sore-loser. 2 months is hardly enough time for anyone to turn around this shit storm we are in. But again, complain away. For people like you, he'll never be successful. But that's the benefit of living in this great country. For eight years (under Bush), I was just like you. No matter what Bush did, it was wrong, IMO. Now the shoe is on the other foot.
    way off man..
    bush didnt run on no pork, obama did....bush was a mess his second term..but when you campaign for a year saying there will be no pork, in all 3 debates it was stated, and it is loaded with pork, there is a problem..u have to learn to admitt wrong doing by "your boy", i do.
    and where did is say we can attack him for not turning it around already, it will take time, but we can get pissed about who he put in positions, they are not the most qualified, again, look at treasury...
    and i have read ur posts, we have never been alike, and never will be...
    admit acorn is a racially motivated group that got a ton of pork money for helpinging obama get elected, if not please explain why they continue getting federal money and why its right...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mooseman33 View Post
    way off man..
    bush didnt run on no pork, obama did....bush was a mess his second term..but when you campaign for a year saying there will be no pork, in all 3 debates it was stated, and it is loaded with pork, there is a problem..u have to learn to admitt wrong doing by "your boy", i do.
    and where did is say we can attack him for not turning it around already, it will take time, but we can get pissed about who he put in positions, they are not the most qualified, again, look at treasury...
    and i have read ur posts, we have never been alike, and never will be...
    admit acorn is a racially motivated group that got a ton of pork money for helpinging obama get elected, if not please explain why they continue getting federal money and why its right...
    !st do you honestly believe that no package would pass without pork? It hasn't been done before and it will be a task for it to happen in the future. Obama claimed he would try to stamp out pork, and it cannot be expected that he could do it in his 1st couple months. Washington is still Washington and it'll take more than the election of a young, charismatic politician to change their ways. Second, the ACORN argument continues to be weak. Obama recieved more white vote than any Democratic candidate in history, he also received more middle class suport and young support as well. Do you think that those poor minorities that ACORN benefits would have voted for McCain, or any other republican?

    But that's besides the point. Check what ACORN "could" be eligible for under that package. It can be argued that it's not necessarily pork. Republicans are up in arms about ACORN simply because they have a tradition of supporting Democratic candidates, nothing more. If it was money for Focus on the Family or the Heritage Foundation (both of which recieved money during the Bush administration), they would not have an issue.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/firs...mulus-dollars/
    Last edited by BgMc31; 04-06-2009 at 04:56 PM.

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    Yes we can!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx View Post
    Yes we can!


    took ya long enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31 View Post
    !st do you honestly believe that no package would pass without pork? It hasn't been done before and it will be a task for it to happen in the future. Obama claimed he would try to stamp out pork, and it cannot be expected that he could do it in his 1st couple months. Washington is still Washington and it'll take more than the election of a young, charismatic politician to change their ways. Second, the ACORN argument continues to be weak. Obama recieved more white vote than any Democratic candidate in history, he also received more middle class suport and young support as well. Do you think that those poor minorities that ACORN benefits would have voted for McCain, or any other republican?

    But that's besides the point. Check what ACORN "could" be eligible for under that package. It can be argued that it's not necessarily pork. Republicans are up in arms about ACORN simply because they have a tradition of supporting Democratic candidates, nothing more. If it was money for Focus on the Family or the Heritage Foundation (both of which recieved money during the Bush administration), they would not have an issue.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/firs...mulus-dollars/
    did obama say that pork would stop as he became president? yes he did.
    did he have to sign the stimulus? yes he did...
    say when ur guy is wrong, he messed up and u people that will always defend him, u loose credit..
    did he say he would put best people possible in position? yes he did, and 3 have had tax problems, one stepped down, and the guy running the treasury will be obama downfall..
    and acorn, well they had there main office raided by FBI and found thousands of voters fraud, have also been linked to bill ayers who is a terrorist. its not republican bs, it is fact..
    next u will say that raciest dirtbag rev. wright was just misunderstood......

    u talk of vague, u are vague my friend

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    ^^^I never said it was republican bs, I said it was republican rhetoric. There is a difference. Obama did say he would stop pork, but if you think he would be able to do so in his first year, then you haven't a clue about how politics works.

    As far as the comment about Rev. Wright, I'm not going to stoop as low as you and attempt to let this deteriorate into a race thread. It doesn't apply to this thread and I fail to see why you even had to go there.

    Vague? I think everything I posted was backed with concrete proof (ie the news report I posted), but if you consider that vague, so be it. Enjoy the next 8yrs dude!!!

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