Deciding which steroid to choose from

[408gt91]

You need FOOD...and after you gain 40 lbs naturally you could consider test cyp/enanth 500mg/wk x 12-14 wks

+1 You have enough test on your own to gain what you want. Just gotta eat and workout right and push yourself. I was 21 and 160 and my friend Helped me with a diet and a routine, by my 23rd b-day i was 225 and gaining.

[Anabolios]

+1 You have enough test on your own to gain what you want. Just gotta eat and workout right and push yourself. I was 21 and 160 and my friend Helped me with a diet and a routine, by my 23rd b-day i was 225 and gaining.

2 years 65 pounds naturally? Either this is a huge exaggeration or you have some crazy genetics and time to dedicate to perfect sleep,diet and training routine. This is not common but if its true those are INCREDIBLE gains assuming theyre muscle

[Immortal Soldier]

2 years 65 pounds naturally? Either this is a huge exaggeration or you have some crazy genetics and time to dedicate to perfect sleep,diet and training routine. This is not common but if its true those are INCREDIBLE gains assuming theyre muscle

I went from 134 to 174 in 4 months (20lbs muscle 20lbs fat/glycogen/water/whatever) bf% went from 8% to 16%, by the end of year I had brought my bf% down to around 12-13% and weighed in around 180.

So yeah it is def. possible, only down side is everyone thought I took steroids and I had stretch marks down my arms from growing so fast, I even have lighting bolt like stretch marks on my forearms.

[Anabolios]

I went from 134 to 174 in 4 months (20lbs muscle 20lbs fat/glycogen/water/whatever) bf% went from 8% to 16%, by the end of year I had brought my bf% down to around 12-13% and weighed in around 180.

So yeah it is def. possible, only down side is everyone thought I took steroids and I had stretch marks down my arms from growing so fast, I even have lighting bolt like stretch marks on my forearms.

That is definetly an accomplishment, but half of that is fat. 65 pounds of muscle is harder if not impossible naturally over that period of time. Either way thats definetly good. Took me over a year to go from 130 to 170ish and I was in the same boat as you...a good portion of that being bodyfat. When youre gaining from 130 lbs anything is good though!

[Immortal Soldier]

That is definetly an accomplishment, but half of that is fat. 65 pounds of muscle is harder if not impossible naturally over that period of time. Either way thats definetly good. Took me over a year to go from 130 to 170ish and I was in the same boat as you...a good portion of that being bodyfat. When youre gaining from 130 lbs anything is good though!

He didn't gain 65lbs of muscle, he said he gained 65lbs. Big difference. It is impossible to gain 65lbs of muscle in less than 2 years without performance enhancing drugs.

Also while you are correct, my gains were half muscle and half fat, that was in the first 4 months afterwards without doing cardio and cleaning up my diet I maintained my weight and start losing the excess fat. I cannot tell you the exact fat percentage but I did drop from 16% to around 12% maybe a little lower all in a year while going up to 180.

The point is, thats why I don't like seeing people get on here saying they can lower there bf% when its in the 20+ or they can't gain weight.

I mean, you can do it, just takes determination. I didnt even do cardio or cut and lost bf%!!! lol

[jasoncga]

+1 You have enough test on your own to gain what you want. Just gotta eat and workout right and push yourself. I was 21 and 160 and my friend Helped me with a diet and a routine, by my 23rd b-day i was 225 and gaining.

I agree. Though I started off much lighter, started grade 11 6'0 @ 145 lbs. I got up to 220 pretty easy once I figured out how/what/when to eat. A few things here and there make a huuuge difference (literally) After you've figured out what your body needs to grow you'd get more out of your cycle. I didnt start using ph's until I had that down pat and after that I had gotten up to 260 (albeit not a delicious 260) just using m1t and other ph's. Food is always the answer, if that doesnt work, use more food until it works.