Absolute best bulking and cutting cycle?

[manwitplans]

i usually run my test low when i run tren.
at about 350mg of test week, maybe 400

ive noticed i get less sides from the tren and still the same gains with lower test.

running the tren lower for cutting is basically all for mental reasons....
the tren will help keep your strength while your cutting. which we all know can suffer from lack of calories and shit loads of cardio.

it will also not cause any sides for most ppl at that dose. and the last thing you want when your cutting and starving and craving all those carbs ( i know i get miserable when im cutting) is dealing with the stress of sides.

also at higher doses of tren it really affects my cardio. walking up steps becomes a chore. so for cutting you dont need anything hindering your cardio sessions and making them harder.

and tren is just god like. it helps make me harder and keep fat off, and makes my veins pop out like whoa. so while your cutting all those are huge pluses

Good info there, thorough

test/deca/tren both ways

So how is it doing two NOR`s? Adding sideeffects to the usual tren or deca side`s? I actually heard this cycle a couple of times and people just get freaky on this kind of cycle.

Can anyone help me out? What is best Oral only Cycle?

Yep, testostorone only 500mg per week.

[Dukkit]

Good info there, thorough

So how is it doing two NOR`s? Adding sideeffects to the usual tren or deca side`s? I actually heard this cycle a couple of times and people just get freaky on this kind of cycle.

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thanks. i try

and running 2 19-nors doesnt mean it equals to deca sides on top of tren sides.

someone else on here explained it on the terms of... if tren has a 60 percent affect (for sides) and deca has a 20% affect... then running them both together wont equal 80%. it will still only equal 60

get me?

and yes... from everyone i know who has done it... running both together is supposed to be awesome. its actually what i have planned for my next bulker. just need the money. lol

[manwitplans]

thanks. i try

and running 2 19-nors doesnt mean it equals to deca sides on top of tren sides.

someone else on here explained it on the terms of... if tren has a 60 percent affect (for sides) and deca has a 20% affect... then running them both together wont equal 80%. it will still only equal 60

get me?

and yes... from everyone i know who has done it... running both together is supposed to be awesome. its actually what i have planned for my next bulker. just need the money. lol

Gotcha! Hehe, sounds like a good bulker, sounds really expensive though, especially if I were to do it here in Norway, talk about your moneydrain