strength gains -without weight gain?

[BuckFosten]

if your really worried about getting too big, u can run a sustaining dosage of test with var... this will do you good

var will suppress your hpta and possibly give you limp dick... a low dosage of test, even at 125mg 1x week of test c or e would solve that problem

im not too worried about getting big, I just dont want any water retention. Also im a strapped for cash right now, so it cant be anything that is really expensive. What about test prop? I heard it doesnt give too much water retention compared to cyp or enanth. It seems cheap too

[jamyjamjr]

im not too worried about getting big, I just dont want any water retention. Also im a strapped for cash right now, so it cant be anything that is really expensive. What about test prop? I heard it doesnt give too much water retention compared to cyp or enanth. It seems cheap too

yea, im on prop right now.. u could also run a-dex at .25mg eod and that would take care of any bloat.. i fight myself (though im a heavy weight, i can run from 250 to 275lbs, so i have to be careful not to gain too much weight... i dont wanna fight butterbing in the superheavy weight divison lmao)...

yea, if i were u, i'd run prop at 25mg ed and run var at 40mg ed.. that would be ideal.. if u cant do ed injections, u can go 50mg eod

[BuckFosten]

yea, im on prop right now.. u could also run a-dex at .25mg eod and that would take care of any bloat.. i fight myself (though im a heavy weight, i can run from 250 to 275lbs, so i have to be careful not to gain too much weight... i dont wanna fight butterbing in the superheavy weight divison lmao)...

yea, if i were u, i'd run prop at 25mg ed and run var at 40mg ed.. that would be ideal.. if u cant do ed injections, u can go 50mg eod

I dont mind just running prop with adex as a cycle. 100mg ed with .25 adex. I dont mind weight gain either as long as its QUALITY. Ive seen too many of my buds run enanth and eat like pigs and blow up with water retention and loose alot of it. Also its summer so i wanna stay lean. adex should clear that up for me.

[jamyjamjr]

I dont mind just running prop with adex as a cycle. 100mg ed with .25 adex. I dont mind weight gain either as long as its QUALITY. Ive seen too many of my buds run enanth and eat like pigs and blow up with water retention and loose alot of it. Also its summer so i wanna stay lean. adex should clear that up for me.

that's more based upon diet....

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6

u can always get your diet checked out at the diet forum.. link is provided above

[BuckFosten]

that's more based upon diet....

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6

u can always get your diet checked out at the diet forum.. link is provided above

true but naturally the esters play a role in water retention too correct? prop has less water retention and estro sides than cyp or enanth...but yes diet is HUGE as well. For now I am going to run my halodrol cycle and see where that gets me and then from there Ill get some test prop and adex and my whole PCT put together. Thanks for your help!