CIA report: Israel will fall in 20 years

[NewMuscle83]

of course he's a jew hater. There's no way he could be opposed to the imperialistic invading Israelis who came in and massacred people and took their land, or the conditions they subject the surviving palestinians to. That wouldn't make sense. The real motive behind his comment is that he is racist against the poor people of the jewish faith for no reason at all..just simply because he is a jew hater.

[Matt]

of course he's a jew hater. There's no way he could be opposed to the imperialistic invading Israelis who came in and massacred people and took their land, or the conditions they subject the surviving palestinians to. That wouldn't make sense. The real motive behind his comment is that he is racist against the poor people of the jewish faith for no reason at all..just simply because he is a jew hater.

Edit, not sure where your coming from...

[NewMuscle83]

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Edit, not sure where your coming from...

Just being sarcastic. I found it ridiculous that he called you a jew hater simply cause you stated your opinion.

[Matt]

Just being sarcastic. I found it ridiculous that he called you a jew hater simply cause you stated your opinion.

Yeah i got that in the end lol.

For the record i dont hate all jews, i do hate what israel does to the Palestinians....

[mho]

of course he's a jew hater. There's no way he could be opposed to the imperialistic invading Israelis who came in and massacred people and took their land, or the conditions they subject the surviving palestinians to. That wouldn't make sense. The real motive behind his comment is that he is racist against the poor people of the jewish faith for no reason at all..just simply because he is a jew hater.

Sounds like what the Americans did to American Indians. Or what the Angles, Saxons and Jutes did the the Celts. Or the British to the Indigenous people of Australia. And if we want to pick the fly shit out of pepper, who occupied that land first? Jews or Palestinians?

I really don't see why this is unacceptable only in the case of Israel. No matter where you live, another people lived their first and they probably didn't go quietly. If some Indian showed up on my porch demanding his land back, he'd soon meet my friend Mr. 12 gauge.

And wasn't Jordan at one time a "Palestinian territory"? Why aren't the Palestinians shelling Jordanian cities?

[NewMuscle83]

Sounds like what the Americans did to American Indians. Or what the Angles, Saxons and Jutes did the the Celts. Or the British to the Indigenous people of Australia. And if we want to pick the fly shit out of pepper, who occupied that land first? Jews or Palestinians?

I really don't see why this is unacceptable only in the case of Israel. No matter where you live, another people lived their first and they probably didn't go quietly. If some Indian showed up on my porch demanding his land back, he'd soon meet my friend Mr. 12 gauge.

And wasn't Jordan at one time a "Palestinian territory"? Why aren't the Palestinians shelling Jordanian cities?

The difference is that it's going on right now, and the oppressed have not given up and they have not been defeated and erased off the earth just yet. Palestinians will fight for their land and their rights until they get their freedom, or suffer the same fate as the other unfortuniate indiginous peoples of other nations. We can sit here and argue all day on internet messag board, but people over there see it a lot differently that we do here. So, all politics aside, they are living a real life of injustice and misery, and will continue to resist until they prevail or perish.

[mho]

The difference is that it's going on right now, and the oppressed have not given up and they have not been defeated and erased off the earth just yet. Palestinians will fight for their land and their rights until they get their freedom, or suffer the same fate as the other unfortuniate indiginous peoples of other nations. We can sit here and argue all day on internet messag board, but people over there see it a lot differently that we do here. So, all politics aside, they are living a real life of injustice and misery, and will continue to resist until they prevail or perish.

But the Jews inhabited that area since 10,000BC. So technically weren't the Jews there first? You could argue that the land that is now Israel has been the Jew homeland for thousands of years, and they just took back from the Palestinians what was rightfully theirs. By the way, was Palestine ever a country? And when did the term "Palestinian" first appear in history?

[NewMuscle83]

But the Jews inhabited that area since 10,000BC. So technically weren't the Jews there first? You could argue that the land that is now Israel has been the Jew homeland for thousands of years, and they just took back from the Palestinians what was rightfully theirs. By the way, was Palestine ever a country? And when did the term "Palestinian" first appear in history?

Again, you could go into your bullsh*t technicalities, or you could look at the situation with a matter of fact view. Jews were there thousands of years, but then, by their own doing, dispersed into the rest of the world. Arabs and palestinians have been there consistently for 1500 years now...but that doesn't matter to me. Also, when they inhabited that area they didn't kill and destroy the civilization that was there. Anyways, what matters is that when the jews first started migrating back to palestine in the early 1900's there were only 5% jews, 5% christians, and 90% palestinians. That's a fact. Also, they came in and started killing and destroying, and treating palestinians like subhumans. That's a fact.

You can go into your retarded rhetorics of what came first, and where did the name originate from, and all other bullsh*t secondary things created to distract people from the true situation at hand, which is real people suffering and dying by the hands of blood thirsty racist Israelis.

That's a fvcking fact.

[Kratos]

Anyways, what matters is that when the jews first started migrating back to palestine in the early 1900's there were only 5% jews, 5% christians, and 90% palestinians. That's a fact. Also, they came in and started killing and destroying, and treating palestinians like subhumans. That's a fact.

real people suffering and dying by the hands of blood thirsty racist Israelis.

That's a fvcking fact.

Not sure where you get your definitive facts here but I don't know how you can state the religious census with any certainty, census was shit and several sources on the subject and they all state different number. And at that time everyone woud be palestinian, the distinction would be jew, christian or Muslim.

They came in and started killing and destroying and treating Palestinians like subhumans...care to back that up and share a source since after all it is fact. There is in fact every indication there was net Arab immigration into Palestine in the period of 1900-1948, and that the economic situation of Palestinian Arabs improved tremendously under the British Mandate relative to surrounding countries. According to the Ottoman census there were 414k arabs in Palestine in 1893. By 1948, there were approximately 1.35 million Arabs and 650,000 Jews living between the Jordan and the Mediterranean, more Arabs than had ever lived in Palestine before, and more Jews than had lived there since Roman times. Therefore, Zionist immigration did not displace Arabs. But since those Arabs are immigrants as many of the Jews are, they have no rightful claim to the land...correct?

Real people are suffering and dying by the hands of blood thirsty racist Palestinians too. That's a fact.

If you're going to get all dramatic with your "that's a fact" statements, try to make some of them facts rather than bias perspectives.