I just can't bulk

[jeff113113]

third cycle was 750 test e w and 600 tren e w
I gained 15lbs on my cycle and went i stopped i lost 11lbs
I do notice that i have less fat and i keep my strenght but i wanted to bulk more
i took clomid and nolvedex for pct for 2 weeks and i took them 2 weeks after my last test shot
I increased my cal intake also, (maybe not enought i guess)

[Phate]

third cycle was 750 test e w and 600 tren e w
I gained 15lbs on my cycle and went i stopped i lost 11lbs
I do notice that i have less fat and i keep my strenght but i wanted to bulk more
i took clomid and nolvedex for pct for 2 weeks and i took them 2 weeks after my last test shot
I increased my cal intake also, (maybe not enought i guess)

stats?
age
weight
height
bf%
training exp
pct
diet

[jimmyinkedup]

the info phate asked is important and necessary for a definitive answer but off the cuff:
1- Not enough Calories
2- pct was too short

[Jfew44]

Diet, diet, diet. It would help to know your stats including cycle experience

[Jfew44]

the info phate asked is important and necessary for a definitive answer but off the cuff:
1- Not enough Calories
2- pct was too short

Missed that. But he only lost 4lbs, which is great. I would imagine he wanted to gain more during the cycle.

[jimmyinkedup]

^^^ huh unless i misunderstand he lost 11 ... (which if he gained 25 wouldnt be bad)

[DSM4Life]

third cycle was 750 test e w and 600 tren e w
I gained 15lbs on my cycle and went i stopped i lost 11lbs
I do notice that i have less fat and i keep my strenght but i wanted to bulk more
i took clomid and nolvedex for pct for 2 weeks and i took them 2 weeks after my last test shot
I increased my cal intake also, (maybe not enought i guess)

Again for the 1292342904782904829084 time.

If you can't gain naturally, your not going to be able to gain/keep on a cycle.
Post what phate asked.

[T-MOS]

Guaranteed its DIET

I am on a bulk using only 400 deca, and about 350 test, and am up 25 lbs so far

growing is ALL about your diet

[Jfew44]

^^^ huh unless i misunderstand he lost 11 ... (which if he gained 25 wouldnt be bad)

Yep you're right, I misunderstood. For some reason I thought he only lost 4. Ya, that's a pretty bad post cycle loss.

[jimmyinkedup]

Guaranteed its DIET

I am on a bulk using only 400 deca, and about 350 test, and am up 25 lbs so far

growing is ALL about your diet

^^^ SO FAR ???? wow i'd love to know how far in cycle you are. After years of cycling gains like that are unheard of for the most part ...i mean after a good bulk anymore ill walk away with 12 lbs of solid muscle - post pct h20 loss etc. Oh and my diet is def solid.....how far up is bodyfat? B./c no offense ...but thats hard to believe.....

[T-MOS]

^^^ SO FAR ???? wow i'd love to know how far in cycle you are. After years of cycling gains like that are unheard of for the most part ...i mean after a good bulk anymore ill walk away with 12 lbs of solid muscle - post pct h20 loss etc. Oh and my diet is def solid.....how far up is bodyfat? B./c no offense ...but thats hard to believe.....

just started week 7

adding Tren A today

hoping to get to at least another 10 lbs before I start cutting

but again, its ALL in the dieting.....I eat Steak EVERYDAY...along with whole wheat pasta, and a ton of eggs, chicken ect..........I actually can't wait to cut cause I get so freaking bloated eating every 2.5 hours with such big meals

[D7M]

Guaranteed its DIET

I am on a bulk using only 400 deca, and about 350 test, and am up 25 lbs so far

growing is ALL about your diet

no tren in there, big guy?

[T-MOS]

no tren in there, big guy?

read the edit

I did 7 weeks of just Test/Deca

Today I switched the Test E to Prop and added Tren A, keeping the deca in there for joint support

[D7M]

read the edit

I did 7 weeks of just Test/Deca

Today I switched the Test E to Prop and added Tren A, keeping the deca in there for joint support

Niiiice.

keep kicking ass, T.

[jimmyinkedup]

just started week 7

adding Tren A today

hoping to get to at least another 10 lbs before I start cutting

but again, its ALL in the dieting.....I eat Steak EVERYDAY...along with whole wheat pasta, and a ton of eggs, chicken ect..........I actually can't wait to cut cause I get so freaking bloated eating every 2.5 hours with such big meals

*L* eating feels like more work than working out doesnt it? Anyway nice work ...impressive. If i up my calories more than i do i end up packing on bodyfat at an unacceptable rate - even for bulking. I just figured after 15 years of cycling this is the way it is....