A new mini Israel in Asia

[eliteforce]

You keep posting this version of history on multiple threads hoping this distortion will stick even after your called on it ..

Lets again go through the real history of 1946-1948..

The british and western nations at that point being the UN, called for partition of Palestine into a 'jewish state' and an 'palestinian state' dividing the land 51/49, in the jewish 'half' the population was at least 40% Palestinian.. there was no real explanation given as to what happens to these people and their land, the British "Peel" commission recommended they be expelled!

The Arabs rejected this and instead counter offered a western democracy; in other words since Palestinians were 75-80% of the population, even after successive waves of Jewish refugees , so they said lets make the country a democracy and the Jews will be a minority in the parliament, and this country will continue to be Palestine. The Arabs were also willing to allow an extended UN peacekeeping force to stay in the country to make sure there was no "holocaust" or sectarian violence..indefinitely(similar to what has been done in kosovo or the balkins in the 90s)..so you can't say they weren't sympathetic to the plight of the jews, they just didn't want to suffer as a result of it since they had nothing to do with it.

no resolution.

The British succumb to zionist terrorism and left the country (leaving the Palestinians mostly disarmed and the zionists armed) and the Jews were much better organized and much richer anyways with all their western support.. they took advantage of this and launched a vicious ethnic cleansing operation.. the arabs did not immediately attempt an invasion as soon as the british left, they invaded after droves of refugees were streaming across their borders.

Today, even after repeated ethnic cleansing Israel/Palestine is still 50% Palestinian.. but is a racist apartheid state with the Palestinians confined in ridiculously small pieces of land with unequal access to everything from employment to health care and no land rights.. supposedly there is this 2 state solution on the table..

The Palestinians are not "the muslims" they are the mostly muslim and some christian people in that country that have their own issues, it doesn't make things better if muslims do something somewhere else. The oppresion does inflame those other situations though.

Something that happens on some tiny mosquito plaged tropical island in the Philippines it doesn't change anything in Palestine. This is some little guerila group in the Philippines, the Philippine army can come and clear them out anytime., that whole country is a Philippine sovereignty. guerilla groups also control swaths of south america and burma..it's easy to do under the cover of a thick jungle.

Kratos I doubt you are college educated, if you were you might have taken an introductory Philosophy/Logic class in your first or second year.. and this fallacy your posting is one of the first things they teach you.. the fallacy that 2 wrongs make a right .

Yes they are being oppressed by the Israeli state

That oppression was born out of war waged by the arab states on a much smaller Israel.

1946?
they were living there at the time the UN granted Israel statehood along demographic lines...stole is a bias way to put it, since under the British Mandate it was very restrictive of jews buying land and prior to that impossible...the whole way land was occupied is different there then the West...Individual ownership isn't really an option. The land was given to them although a much smaller peice because they were being oppressed and maybe in turn were oppressing. For whatever reason the two groups were not happy living togther and had a conflict errupting. The boders were expanded when attacked and their attackers lost ground creating the oppression. It's much more complicated then you are making it.

[Kratos]

The Arabs rejected this and instead counter offered a western democracy; in other words since Palestinians were 75-80% of the population, even after successive waves of Jewish refugees , so they said lets make the country a democracy and the Jews will be a minority in the parliament, and this country will continue to be Palestine. The Arabs were also willing to allow an extended UN peacekeeping force to stay in the country to make sure there was no "holocaust" or sectarian

Please provide source and documetation of this offer



The British succumb to zionist terrorism and left the country (leaving the Palestinians mostly disarmed and the zionists armed) and the Jews were much better organized and much richer anyways with all their western support..

The Brits didn't succumb to anything, they tried to create peace between Arabs and Jews and when they couldn't they tossed it to the UN to settle.

they took advantage of this and launched a vicious ethnic cleansing operation.. the arabs did not immediately attempt an invasion as soon as the british left, they invaded after droves of refugees were streaming across their borders.

Again source please...The Un declared Israel a state May 14 1948, the day the British mandate expried...Over the next few days, approximately 1,000 Lebanese, 5,000 Syrian, 5,000 Iraqi, and 10,000 Egyptian troops invaded the newly-established state. Four thousand Jordanian troops invaded the Corpus separatum region encompassing Jerusalem and its environs, as well as areas designated as part of the Arab state by the UN partition plan. They were aided by corps of volunteers from Saudi Arabia, Libya and Yemen.

umm, war was declared after the UN vote in 1947, so how long did they have time to do an ethnic house cleaning .

This thread is not about Israel itself, please stick to the topic. If you wish to justify the actions of the people involved using Israel, I really don't see how rebeling against the filo gvmt helps their cause in Israel. If they wish to be under Islamic law there are plenty of places in the world to live that way without infringing on the rights of the majority in this region of not only this Island nation but the island itself.

[Kratos]

Kratos I doubt you are college educated, if you were you might have taken an introductory Philosophy/Logic class in your first or second year.. and this fallacy your posting is one of the first things they teach you.. the fallacy that 2 wrongs make a right .

Wow, what a suprize another personal attack, oh wait maybe it isn't a suprize since you've done this many times in the past. I can't really hold it against you at this point though, since now I too have crossed that line.

2 wrongs may not make a right but they do make hipocrisy for a religion constantly propagandizing martyrdom.