natural or juicing

[ghettoboyd]

i dont mean to offend anyone on hrt or trt but imho it is still somewhat jucing.i mean im 37 now and have been seriously training my ass of with watever test levels i have. i dont feel like i did when i was younger but through good nutrition and training i have found the fountain of youth.and do feel relitivly good.i have been pondering cycling or seeing an endo for trt but i am waiting i guess till it is absolutly nessasary which im shure most of you trt guys did.but it is discouraging to us whome take a grat deal of pride for what we have accomplished without the use of aas to see a dude who says hes natural but on trt all jacked up.i know a few peeps on hrt that look way better then if thay where natural so even low dose test dose wonders for some. again just my opinion. and im saying this in a most respectfull way or at least im trying too.no dissrespect for those on hrt ot trt was intended in these statements.

[Papa Smurf]

i dont mean to offend anyone on hrt or trt but imho it is still somewhat jucing.i mean im 37 now and have been seriously training my ass of with watever test levels i have. i dont feel like i did when i was younger but through good nutrition and training i have found the fountain of youth.and do feel relitivly good.i have been pondering cycling or seeing an endo for trt but i am waiting i guess till it is absolutly nessasary which im shure most of you trt guys did.but it is discouraging to us whome take a grat deal of pride for what we have accomplished without the use of aas to see a dude who says hes natural but on trt all jacked up.i know a few peeps on hrt that look way better then if thay where natural so even low dose test dose wonders for some. again just my opinion. and im saying this in a most respectfull way or at least im trying too.no dissrespect for those on hrt ot trt was intended in these statements.

Ghettoboyd: What are your Total and Free Test levels currently? If the answer is "I dont know" then yes Im offended.
None of us here enjoy the thoughts of havin to jab a piece of steel in our ass the rest of our lives, but thats the hand we were given. You go to the TRT doc after you have worked your ass off in the gym, hired some nutrition expert to come up with the "best" diet for you, and have takin every supplement out there that you even think may help!
I know that most TRT are over dosed, but thats why some of us get tested every month or so and sometimes has to go from one stick every 2 weeks to one stick a week (JOY) to achieve a corrected balance.

Sorry: Im stoppin now

[ghettoboyd]

Ghettoboyd: What are your Total and Free Test levels currently? If the answer is "I dont know" then yes Im offended.
None of us here enjoy the thoughts of havin to jab a piece of steel in our ass the rest of our lives, but thats the hand we were given. You go to the TRT doc after you have worked your ass off in the gym, hired some nutrition expert to come up with the "best" diet for you, and have takin every supplement out there that you even think may help!
I know that most TRT are over dosed, but thats why some of us get tested every month or so and sometimes has to go from one stick every 2 weeks to one stick a week (JOY) to achieve a corrected balance.

Sorry: Im stoppin now

fair enough man i appreciate your thoughts and feelings toward this subject.your right i dont know what my test levels are and understand that some peeps need trt.im certainly not against it and am glad that it is an option for us aging bros. im sorry i offended you and im shure many others whom really need it.it was just my opinion.....

[Papa Smurf]

fair enough man i appreciate your thoughts and feelings toward this subject.your right i dont know what my test levels are and understand that some peeps need trt.im certainly not against it and am glad that it is an option for us aging bros. im sorry i offended you and im shure many others whom really need it.it was just my opinion.....

Its OK man! You just touched a nerve, that is why I stopped. Its your opinion and Im glad your shared it, thats what this forum is all about.



PS: Love you avatar. Just lost my black german shepherd 6 months ago to cancer. Pic reminded me of her

[zaggahamma]

[QUOTE=EROC1313;4641443]Its OK man! You just touched a nerve, that is why I stopped. Its your opinion and Im glad your shared it, thats what this forum is all about.

agree