Phate's S4 Log

[Phate]

wait, what? You screwed up your eye, or the S-4 did??

i did, i've had this happen before

WTF? Are you OK? So are you stopping S-4?

yeah, did cardio this morning, back and cardio afterwards

I'M NOT STOPPING THE S4, my eye is fine now, just hurt like a bitch this morning and i had to use an eyepatch for a while to let it heal

[Phate]

Not a good workout day, strength was fine but i couldn't feel the muscles working like i normally can, all in all just not a good workout, but i got through it

birthday tomorrow, yay.....not

[jbm]

I know this might be a dumb question...
What's S4? just a short and brief answer...
Thanks!

[Phate]

I know this might be a dumb question...
What's S4? just a short and brief answer...
Thanks!

we have a forum for it under the AS section if you want to read more, but here's a summary

S4 is a SARM(selective androgen receptor modifier), which is the new class that will(hopefully) replace steroids in the next decade or so, the reasoning is this, SARMs are basically non-hormonal, meaning they produce the anabolic effects of steroids(mass gain, fat loss, etc...) without the sides(acne, hairloss) and they also do this without much suppression of the HPTA

but they are still in research, so i'm basically doing research using my body as the experiment

[The Deuce]

... ANYONE EVER TOLD YOU THAT YOU THE MAN BRO?? cuz .............. You the man !!!


This S4 sh1t scares the absolute bejesus out of me...


like really.........


i'll never give up my AAS !! Never I tell you !! D@MN THE SARMS !!!

[Phate]

... ANYONE EVER TOLD YOU THAT YOU THE MAN BRO?? cuz .............. You the man !!!


This S4 sh1t scares the absolute bejesus out of me...


like really.........


i'll never give up my AAS !! Never I tell you !! D@MN THE SARMS !!!

Me too bro, i have a good healthy fear for it, hence why i'm not running 200-300mg/day like some people i know, i'm scared i would fvck myself up, but the risk of using S4 is still less than that of using AS right now so it's what i'm using, but don't think for a second i'm using it carefree, lol

[jbm]

we have a forum for it under the AS section if you want to read more, but here's a summary

S4 is a SARM(selective androgen receptor modifier), which is the new class that will(hopefully) replace steroids in the next decade or so, the reasoning is this, SARMs are basically non-hormonal, meaning they produce the anabolic effects of steroids(mass gain, fat loss, etc...) without the sides(acne, hairloss) and they also do this without much suppression of the HPTA

but they are still in research, so i'm basically doing research using my body as the experiment

Thanks! I think I read an article about SARM in a magazine last year... but anyway! you are using your body for research? damn you are crazy.... lolol!!!
Good luck brother!

[Edgar]

ahh its ok. the vision thing does get on your nerves a lil, good luck with it but it wont replace a good ole cycle. just think you could be running a test and tren maybe some mast in your cycle and instead you are running S4. I would use it for pct and keep all your gains

[Phate]

ahh its ok. the vision thing does get on your nerves a lil, good luck with it but it wont replace a good ole cycle. just think you could be running a test and tren maybe some mast in your cycle and instead you are running S4. I would use it for pct and keep all your gains

actually i can't, i can't cycle for another couple years

[wukillabee]

Bump for an actual log past all these ads! Need to get a mod in here to delete these spam threads started by doctorwelcom21. Not sure when these ads started popping up but just looked now and theres like 12 in a row!

[Phate]

Bump for an actual log past all these ads! Need to get a mod in here to delete these spam threads started by doctorwelcom21. Not sure when these ads started popping up but just looked now and theres like 12 in a row!

there are close to 100 now, it's a smart bot, but we can't do anything as none of us have the power to delete that are on now

[NewMuscle83]

what the hell is everyone talking about??? I see NO ads!!!

[wukillabee]

there are close to 100 now, it's a smart bot, but we can't do anything as none of us have the power to delete that are on now

That sucks, damn spammers and their bots. Actually went on the site just to see, $90 for some creatine, real deal! Haha!

[InsaneInTheMembrane]

It's good for us to see real world s4 results; things sometimes look good on paper but not in practice

thanx for being our guinea pig

cheers
Insane

[Valtorian]

Sounds cool, look forward to seeing the results.

[legobricks]

Also logged, im interested in how the S4 will help with your goals. Im also thinking of using it myself....still in limbo tho

[Phate]

today was a weak point day

noticed good increases in strength and endurance

[MuscleScience]

So are you benching 400+ yet???

[Phate]

So are you benching 400+ yet???

Lol, i don't bench, can't stand it

[Epic1]

Me either! but ill do some incline instead

[RANA]

Lol, i don't bench, can't stand it

Me either, only DB, cables and Machines. I don't feel like ripping a pec

[stpete]

I'm checking from here on out. Good luck bro.

[Jumbo18]

how you been phate? you doing alright?

[hugovsilva]

Notice any body composition changes?

[KatsMeow]

we have a forum for it under the AS section if you want to read more, but here's a summary

S4 is a SARM(selective androgen receptor modifier), which is the new class that will(hopefully) replace steroids in the next decade or so, the reasoning is this, SARMs are basically non-hormonal, meaning they produce the anabolic effects of steroids(mass gain, fat loss, etc...) without the sides(acne, hairloss) and they also do this without much suppression of the HPTA

but they are still in research, so i'm basically doing research using my body as the experiment

I have a research experiment to do on your body as well.

[Dukkit]

I have a research experiment to do on your body as well.

oh my. is kats gettin friskey!!

[KatsMeow]

oh my. is kats gettin friskey!!

sorry, couldn't help it

[Phate]

Notice any body composition changes?

so far i'm unimpressed, nothing really noticeable, better size overall but not much, i'll wait for my final body composition to come back, sorry for the lack of posts guys, dad just had heart surgery so i'm taking care of him in Arizona

I have a research experiment to do on your body as well.

oh really, something along the lines of high intensity cardio i hope

[D7M]

Hope your Dad recovers well, my friend.

[KatsMeow]

so far i'm unimpressed, nothing really noticeable, better size overall but not much, i'll wait for my final body composition to come back, sorry for the lack of posts guys, dad just had heart surgery so i'm taking care of him in Arizona



oh really, something along the lines of high intensity cardio i hope

of course hunny, we can get that summer cardio plan in motion

[Reed]

Sorry to hear about your father Phate. Hope all is well

Do you have any updates for us, sides, you benching 500 yet? whats been going on, I'm really interested as I plan on utilizing this once i come off after the comps. Or hit me up on you know what.

[Phate]

Sorry to hear about your father Phate. Hope all is well

Do you have any updates for us, sides, you benching 500 yet? whats been going on, I'm really interested as I plan on utilizing this once i come off after the comps. Or hit me up on you know what.

i just got a full bloodwork taken(i'm in the middle of my S4 cycle) so this should be interesting

metabolic panel
thyroid panel
free and total test
lipid profile
liver values
etc....

[Reed]

I am very interested in what comes about.

I see you are not THAT impressed. Very well then I guess its not all that and more but can possibly help take that post cycle edge off for me.

[Phate]

I am very interested in what comes about.

I see you are not THAT impressed. Very well then I guess its not all that and more but can possibly help take that post cycle edge off for me.

that it could, remember you that i'm taking a low to moderate dose and since S4 is 17AA it's not hepatotoxic(at least to my knowledge), so you could(and knowing you would) run a much higher dose than i am now

though my next cycle(winter bulker) i'm going to run 250-300mg/day

[Reed]

You know oh so well.


But I'm trying to stay smart as I am only on my third cycle which is just to hold to muscle while i deplete and shred down. I don't wanna bump and bump too fast even though I wannaaaaaaaa........

[Phate]

You know oh so well.


But I'm trying to stay smart as I am only on my third cycle which is just to hold to muscle while i deplete and shred down. I don't wanna bump and bump too fast even though I wannaaaaaaaa........

don't worry, i'll be the genuine pig with this stuff and tell you how each cycle goes

[*RAGE*]

so sorry to hear about your dad bro, my prayers got out to him. I am following this thread very close, just read some stuff on this and am looking forward to see how it turns out for you....

thanks for being a ginny pig..

[amcon]

did you get the blood test back yet? and do you have weight gains? bf changes?

how do you feel in the s4 in general? were you on hrt before?

[amcon]

did you get the blood test back yet? and do you have weight gains? bf changes?

how do you feel in the s4 in general? were you on hrt before?

[Phate]

did you get the blood test back yet? and do you have weight gains? bf changes?

how do you feel in the s4 in general? were you on hrt before?

i should have the bloodtests back tomorrow and i'll report an abnormalities and such

on the S4 i feel about the same as off, and no, i have never cycled before or used any steroids/peptides/etc...