Is it possible that I am maybe just a little too good looking?

[Immortal Soldier]

dont get self esteem confused with sacared. if your scared than just say it. lot of guys are scared of rejection.

Oh there def. is the fear of being rejected especially when I am at this stage, I got the looks, I got the body, and I got the personality, so if I do get rejected by mind would simply trigger a defense mechanism saying "your just not muscular/cut enough yet get bigger"

But I also do have low self-esteem, I battled depression and a drug experimentation and that ultimatly put me at a whopping 6'0 134lbs before I defeated my depression naturally and began working out (for fun) which became an obbsession and now I suffer from the thinking that I am "not big enough". So self-esteem does have a big part in it, but I don't let it show. Like if you see me walking around you wouldn't say "that guy has self-esteem" I hide it inside and cover it up in public, but its there.

It's not that I don't get girls or get hit on, its just that I reached the point where I am like "I am tired, I am tired of obbsessing over my body and tired of thinking I am not good enough and hiding it" I just want peace, currently I am battling another drug addiction and will probably enter rehab in dec. so things arent working out right now, I feel like I am not getting my full ***** getting potential that with this body and looks I just be banging alot more or getting alot more girls than I do now.

[bushido3374]

Oh there def. is the fear of being rejected especially when I am at this stage, I got the looks, I got the body, and I got the personality, so if I do get rejected by mind would simply trigger a defense mechanism saying "your just not muscular/cut enough yet get bigger"

But I also do have low self-esteem, I battled depression and a drug experimentation and that ultimatly put me at a whopping 6'0 134lbs before I defeated my depression naturally and began working out (for fun) which became an obbsession and now I suffer from the thinking that I am "not big enough". So self-esteem does have a big part in it, but I don't let it show. Like if you see me walking around you wouldn't say "that guy has self-esteem" I hide it inside and cover it up in public, but its there.

It's not that I don't get girls or get hit on, its just that I reached the point where I am like "I am tired, I am tired of obbsessing over my body and tired of thinking I am not good enough and hiding it" I just want peace, currently I am battling another drug addiction and will probably enter rehab in dec. so things arent working out right now, I feel like I am not getting my full ***** getting potential that with this body and looks I just be banging alot more or getting alot more girls than I do now.

The current drug addiction that you mentioned is a huge part of the self esteem. I've given up alcohol for addiction reasons and it took years to realize that I was actually a more developed person because of the experience. Get clean and start working on your own sense of self value.

Also, if you don't drink, but are going to bars, then you are putting yourself in the wrong environment for socializing. I know from experience, if you don't drink, you stick out like a sore thumb in a bar. Try to meet girls in other areas. I've met alot of girls in kayaking class, in ethnic clubs at the University, hiking clubs, classes, through other friends, community fundraisers, charity runs (5 and 10K). Getting picked up on in the mall is mostly an urban legend. Work on developing friendships with women and you'll have your hands full of opportunities.

Also, please feel free to PM me if you need someone who can relate to you with addiction and self esteem issues. I've been there a couple of times and have a fair amount of experience there.

[IronReload04]

[QUOTE=Immortal Soldier;4650093]Oh there def. is the fear of being rejected especially when I am at this stage, I got the looks, I got the body, and I got the personality, so if I do get rejected by mind would simply trigger a defense mechanism saying "your just not muscular/cut enough yet get bigger"

Honestly, Good looks only take you so far. If you are good enough looking, their comes a point where confidence and personality will completely overshadow what your body looks like in her mind. If you have good enough game, you can get inside her head where, once she has gotten to know you, she would choose you over some perfect 11 she just met.

I think this is more applicable to trying to get a chick over time rather than

a. she is checking you out

b, you apprach

but still useful.






And just by reading this post, it sounds like you really need to stop giving a **** and chill the hell out. Work on the confidence.

[Immortal Soldier]

^^^ its cool. I am just in a bad mood and tired of hearing about all the freaking relationship threads on this board lately.....lolol

You would think we were on the Oprah Message Board or something

Haha I Feel you man, I am a bag of estrogen right now and seems like the whole board is. Next thing you know we will all be menstrating on the same days

But I talk to this board about things I cant really talk to with friends because sometimes they give me **** for it or tell me to stop being a bitch so talking to complete strangers is nice for a change.

[QUOTE=IronReload04;4652094]

Oh there def. is the fear of being rejected especially when I am at this stage, I got the looks, I got the body, and I got the personality, so if I do get rejected by mind would simply trigger a defense mechanism saying "your just not muscular/cut enough yet get bigger"

Honestly, Good looks only take you so far. If you are good enough looking, their comes a point where confidence and personality will completely overshadow what your body looks like in her mind. If you have good enough game, you can get inside her head where, once she has gotten to know you, she would choose you over some perfect 11 she just met.

I think this is more applicable to trying to get a chick over time rather than

a. she is checking you out

b, you apprach

but still useful.






And just by reading this post, it sounds like you really need to stop giving a **** and chill the hell out. Work on the confidence.

True that my friend, I mean I am chill its just its all fun faking confidence and passing the **** to the girl and then sleeping with her and the next day being like "that did nothing to resolve the issues, she thinks I am a confident guy yet I am still the same"

This might sound really ***** or something, but lately I feel like I have this god damn hole inside me and no matter if I get hit on or hook up with a girl it doesnt fix the underlying issues, its like a temproary relief to the pain.

I mean I wont truly be confident till this trend keeps reoccuring and then my mind finally realizes that its not the 134lb low self esteem depressed high school prick I was 5 years ago but actually someone that is confident.

[IronReload04]

[QUOTE=Immortal Soldier;4652105]Haha I Feel you man, I am a bag of estrogen right now and seems like the whole board is. Next thing you know we will all be menstrating on the same days

But I talk to this board about things I cant really talk to with friends because sometimes they give me **** for it or tell me to stop being a bitch so talking to complete strangers is nice for a change.

True that my friend, I mean I am chill its just its all fun faking confidence and passing the **** to the girl and then sleeping with her and the next day being like "that did nothing to resolve the issues, she thinks I am a confident guy yet I am still the same"

This might sound really ***** or something, but lately I feel like I have this god damn hole inside me and no matter if I get hit on or hook up with a girl it doesnt fix the underlying issues, its like a temproary relief to the pain.

I mean I wont truly be confident till this trend keeps reoccuring and then my mind finally realizes that its not the 134lb low self esteem depressed high school prick I was 5 years ago but actually someone that is confident.

actually, I can almost relate. I am going through a body recomp myself right now. Going from huge offseason 22 percent bodyfat to getting down to 8-10 for the first time. I feel like I am having some psychological issues. Not necessarily negative. Been pretty much soft and 20-22ish my whole life, and getting down to 8-10 has got me looking like a completely different individual. RIght now, I feel like I am just not interested in dating for the time being. I feel like my mind is "waiting" until I look like what I feel I am supposed to look like, then my libido will pick back up after I am done transforming. IT feels very natural and positive.


Sounds like you could be going through something similar. Like maybe in the back of your mind, you want dating to be on hold unitl your body matches what your mind wants you to look like. But in your case, maybe your goals are unrealistic (for the time being). SO maybe work that out and think that over.

[operationgetbig]

I'm pretty sure there's a lot more to life than being really, really, ridiculously good looking. And I plan on finding out what that is.