just gonna ask

[T-MOS]

Run Tren E with Test C, the esters are the same lenght.

Divide your shots E3D.

How much test are you running?

Are you FREAKIN serious???

You are gonna tell someone that has NEVER run tren to run TREN E???

that is TERRIBLE ADVICE !!!


If your bodyfat is decent, and you want to look hard for summer, run 6 weeks of Winny at the end of your cycle

DO NOT RUN TREN ENANTHATE for your first tren run !!!!!

[Phate]

Are you FREAKIN serious???

You are gonna tell someone that has NEVER run tren to run TREN E???

that is TERRIBLE ADVICE !!!


If your bodyfat is decent, and you want to look hard for summer, run 6 weeks of Winny at the end of your cycle

DO NOT RUN TREN ENANTHATE for your first tren run !!!!!

my thoughts exactly, if someone has only run test and deca, why the fvck would you guys tell him to run the most potent (gain and side wise) steroid we have access to? and even worse, to run the long ester, which would take several days to clear his system if he had a bad reaction to it(not allergic reaction, as in harsh sides)

bad advice guys

OP, listen to TMOS, he knows his shvt, winny would be a good start

[amateur88]

Agree with T-Mos here! |Tren E is not good for first tren use! Iwould say use winny as a hardner! works well if your bodyfat is low, if its not dont bother tbh!

[peachfuzz]

Bmp some one answer this please I gotta go hit cardio:

"Please elaborate the Difference between tren and TREN E?

Why would it make a difference on the first time tren user?

Does the ester make the androgen any differenct besides plasma level stabolization and lenght of life?"

my thoughts exactly, if someone has only run test and deca, why the fvck would you guys tell him to run the most potent (gain and side wise) steroid we have access to? and even worse, to run the long ester, which would take several days to clear his system if he had a bad reaction to it(not allergic reaction, as in harsh sides)

bad advice guys

OP, listen to TMOS, he knows his shvt, winny would be a good start

your question was already answered

[doctorclaus]

Are you FREAKIN serious???

You are gonna tell someone that has NEVER run tren to run TREN E???

that is TERRIBLE ADVICE !!!


If your bodyfat is decent, and you want to look hard for summer, run 6 weeks of Winny at the end of your cycle

DO NOT RUN TREN ENANTHATE for your first tren run !!!!!

the AR god has spoken

[powerliftmike]

the AR god has spoken

Can I be a demi-god or something else cool?

[Dancer]

Are you FREAKIN serious???

You are gonna tell someone that has NEVER run tren to run TREN E???

that is TERRIBLE ADVICE !!!


If your bodyfat is decent, and you want to look hard for summer, run 6 weeks of Winny at the end of your cycle

DO NOT RUN TREN ENANTHATE for your first tren run !!!!!

Please elaborate the Difference between tren and TREN E?

Why would it make a difference on the first time tren user?

Does the ester make the androgen any differenct besides plasma level stabolization and lenght of life?

[CJ.]

Please elaborate the Difference between tren and TREN E.

Are you suggesting that the ester makes the AAS some how especial?

Yes I did suggest that for a few reasons.

I see that using a long ester test and long ester tren would make it easier on the injection times.

Please also understand I like yourself and a few others here I am an older guy.

Personally I hate winny the last time I used it my liver/kidney panel test came back terrible.

Just a question for phate, t-mos, big, powerliftermike, what about primo or masteron if the OP is opposed to winni?

It seems everyones favorite is tren, I know nothing about Tren, but I've heard people say they thought they were having a heart attack while on it, or they were more aggresive, or couldn't sleep. Again I'm not knocking it, I know nothing about it. It just seems like one of the stronger, hard to handle compounds.

[Dancer]

Just a question for phate, t-mos, big, powerliftermike, what about primo or masteron if the OP is opposed to winni?

It seems everyones favorite is tren, I know nothing about Tren, but I've heard people say they thought they were having a heart attack while on it, or they were more aggresive, or couldn't sleep. Again I'm not knocking it, I know nothing about it. It just seems like one of the stronger, hard to handle compounds.

Every one is different. Your reactions to a compound maybe cause you to have a set of reactions that another person using the same compund may or may not get.

You maybe the guy that can not sleep as well on tren. While another person using the same dosage will not feel any issue.

Age also makes a difference.

In more detail your HPTA and base hormonal levels in your 40s will not be the same as your 20s.

HRT for us older guys is a blessing.

To fear using a compund because it has a longer ester is something some one else will have to explain to me.

[CJ.]

Just a question for phate, t-mos, big, powerliftermike, what about primo or masteron if the OP is opposed to winni?

It seems everyones favorite is tren, I know nothing about Tren, but I've heard people say they thought they were having a heart attack while on it, or they were more aggresive, or couldn't sleep. Again I'm not knocking it, I know nothing about it. It just seems like one of the stronger, hard to handle compounds.

sorry, I tought the OP was dancer! My bad. Winni can jack your liver panel up, but it should return to normal after cycle. You could also run some niacin, milk thistle, and fish oil or CoQ10 while taking winni to help combat elevated values of cloest, bp, and liver. Just my 2 cents.