Quote Originally Posted by derek7m View Post
I agree with prone, 60-80mg var is fine dose, even for leaning out.

Var really won't pack on much mass anyway.

And i wouldn't suggest T3 without the use of AS. Even in conjunction with clen, he'll most likely end up burning through muscle.
I would never run var without a test base. The OP wants to lean out. T3 doesn't suppress the HPTA function, var does. When you drop in BF you lose muscle with it. No such thing as burning fat without losing some muscle. Why do think Pro BBers blow up in the off-season?