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    Just finished reading WarMachines' articles. Please grade my understanding. Cycle q'

    Hey all! First of all I am blown away by the knowledge and passion found on the the forum. This is my first post! though I have been lurking since late 2005.

    WarMachine, Swifto, Mudman, Phate, Big, DSM and all others I want to seriously extend a huge thank you for the patience and wisdom you guys share.


    My Stats


    26 Years Old.
    5”11 163 lbs ( stuck at this weight for 6 years, despite serious diet changes. I check everyday)
    Working out for 2 years in College ( no gains, discouraged, I blame my vegi diet ) Started again last year. Lifting as a Main focus, limited cardio.
    10% BF based on gym electro resistance machine.
    Gym 4 times / week.
    100% Pro complex ED, fruits, Multi V;s and a PH Creatine.
    Also no more restrictions on food. Ill eat anything that bleeds, changed diet last year

    Main Goal - reach 180 of sustained weight. ( get to 185, and maintain 180 in PCT if possible ).
    that is a 17lbs gain. I would not resort to AAS if I and my friend who is mentoring me believed I can do it.
    I do not compete, I enjoy this sport and love feeling great / accomplished after a hard 2 trip to the gym. I have always been on the very skinny side. ( you would guess me ~ 145 lbs soaking wet ). I have visited more than one doctor, and my blood work is always normal. Recently I asked for a full panel ( thank you forum for the list, i am waiting for the printed results as i am not satisifed with the all is fine response ).

    I have almost doubled my weight capacity on the training exercises, with NO measurable difference in volume or size.

    I would like to get through a cycle with the least impact as possible in terms of non desirable sides. .


    From my 4 months of reading messages here, I have compiled this arrangement to be experimented with.


    AS Cylce Weeks 1-12 ( Cycle based on MudMans Newb intro )

    1-12: 300mg Test Blend 150*2/week ( sunday / wed ) ( my weapon of choice *** note on bottom ***)
    1-12: 10mg Tamox ED into end of PCT ( Prevent Gyno, rather prevent than treat )
    (removed the l-dex from here )


    PCT Cycle Weeks 14-18 ( WAR machine Protocol )

    12*-18: 10mg Tamox ED ( continued from cycle )
    14-18: 100 / 100 / 50 / 50 mg Clomid ED
    14-18: 20 / 20 / 10 / 10 mg Aromasin ED ( swifto dose recomendation )
    14-18 3g Vit C ( cortisol control, rec by Swifto )


    HGH Cycle weeks 2-18
    ( concurrent )
    2-18 2.5 IU’s HGH pharm grade.
    Delay the HG onset and overlap to the PCT, to aid in recovery. _ HGH forum*

    I have not acquired the three chems yet. I plan to visit our forum sponsor for those research materials.



    ****Questions****


    Should I remove the Aromasin from the warmachine PCT protocol, and place A-dex into the cycle under the tamox. Or keep it Aromasin since A-dex and tamox are not to be mixed.

    qutoe to support this question: “Adex while on and Aromasin during PCT (if needed). If you have used an AI and controlled estrogen during your cycle, you dont need an AI during PCT.” - Swifto and WarMachine.




    **** Gear
    My Gear :

    Each ML contains
    Testosterone cypionate 50MG
    Testosterone enanthate 50MG
    Testosterone phenypropionate 40MG
    Testosterone propionate 30 MG
    Testosterone decanoate 200MG
    Testosterone isocaproat 30MG

    I understand due to the blend of long and short esters, i will have to inject between EOD or E3D. To maintain a steady level. I have read here that the fluctuations in test level can cause greater side effects.
    What ever the split will be, it will equal 300 mg / week.

    Its with me, so its not going to waste.
    Last edited by turboskinny; 06-02-2009 at 03:55 AM.

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