“YOUR FIRST CYCLE” – Courtsey of Phreezer

[Juice Authority]

Well, for one, its not up to me to delete your thread. I don't have that power.

I thought it was a nice effort until you made the above statement in RED !!

That proves right there that you should NOT be giving advice or writing threads like this.

When WE give information, especially to new YOUNG members, we want to give them the best SAFEST way to do this as they are gonna venture off and do more than we tell them anyway. If your attitude is that you DON'T CARE about your blood levels, then you are NOT a good TEACHER.

I don't Teach what I always DO, but I teach what is the best safest way to start out . I have ten years in, i have done my experiments, and know what works for my body, and maybe you have too, but to tell a newbie that it doesn't matter about blood levels just because YOU don't care about them is reckless and NOT what this board is about.

I may do 500 mgs of dbol/ED, but I would NEVER tell a newbie that is ok, because I can do it and still live. (disclaimer:I would NEVER do take that much by the way)

IF you write something like this , its because you care and want to TEACH people how to do things safely and correctly. Not necessarily the way YOU or I would do things!!


PEACE

I was under the impression this is a 'discussion' forum where there is an open exchange of ideas and concepts. What is the 'proper protocol' today very well may be outdated tomorrow. You've been cycling for a long time what from I've read. Has your 'protocol' changed over the years or is it the same as it was 10 years ago?

Tell me how 'stable' your blood concentration level is during PCT. Hormones are in a state of flux and the body is trying to figure out what to do next. The body is asking itself do I make testosterone or is testosterone already present?

When you workout do you do the same routine every time or do you switch things up? I have found that the body responds best to change. While my methods may seem unorthodox to you they work for me. Pinning Sust e/3days or Cyp 2x/wk is not anymore effective than 1x/wk for me. Spreading my dbol dosages throughout the day is no more effective than taking them all in one cocktail (I prefer inj dbol over oral anyway).

I have followed every protocol and dosing regimen out there and right now I'm responding well to this one. Does that make me right and everyone else wrong? Certainly not. Unlike some others around here I like to share my experience versus regurgitating information off some steroid profile or parroting the herd mentality.

[T-MOS]

I was under the impression this is a 'discussion' forum where there is an open exchange of ideas and concepts. What is the 'proper protocol' today very well may be outdated tomorrow. You've been cycling for a long time what from I've read. Has your 'protocol' changed over the years or is it the same as it was 10 years ago?

Tell me how 'stable' your blood concentration level is during PCT. Hormones are in a state of flux and the body is trying to figure out what to do next. The body is asking itself do I make testosterone or is testosterone already present?

When you workout do you do the same routine every time or do you switch things up? I have found that the body responds best to change. While my methods may seem unorthodox to you they work for me. Pinning Sust e/3days or Cyp 2x/wk is not anymore effective than 1x/wk for me. Spreading my dbol dosages throughout the day is no more effective than taking them all in one cocktail (I prefer inj dbol over oral anyway).

I have followed every protocol and dosing regimen out there and right now I'm responding well to this one. Does that make me right and everyone else wrong? Certainly not. Unlike some others around here I like to share my experience versus regurgitating information off some steroid profile or parroting the herd mentality.

I am fine with debating ANY AAS theory, protocol, or cycle you want, BUT that is NOT what this thread began as.

If you want to share YOUR experiences and open it up for debate TERRIFIC ! I will join in where I feel my expertise and experiences allow.

BUT in this thread you are Stating what newbies SHOULD do. Not ASKING for opinions or debate, THAT is what started this and WHY it turned into a debate instead of an educational thread

Had the title been, Lets talk about beginner cycles, and then you stated that THIS is what YOU do and asked for others experience or opinions FINE, I am ALL FOR IT !!

but that is NOT what you set out to do with this thread, you set out to Give newbies a SET way to do Beginner cycles and THAT is why others jumped on you for it.

[Juice Authority]

I am fine with debating ANY AAS theory, protocol, or cycle you want, BUT that is NOT what this thread began as.

If you want to share YOUR experiences and open it up for debate TERRIFIC ! I will join in where I feel my expertise and experiences allow.

BUT in this thread you are Stating what newbies SHOULD do. Not ASKING for opinions or debate, THAT is what started this and WHY it turned into a debate instead of an educational thread

Had the title been, Lets talk about beginner cycles, and then you stated that THIS is what YOU do and asked for others experience or opinions FINE, I am ALL FOR IT !!

but that is NOT what you set out to do with this thread, you set out to Give newbies a SET way to do Beginner cycles and THAT is why others jumped on you for it.

Absolutely not. Never once did I state what a newbie should or shouldn't do. Here is what I said:

Seems to be a lot of first cycle questions. I found this to be an informative post that covers quite a bit..

The rest was posted by someone else who happens to be referenced in the subject line of the thread.