2 cheat days,ahh damn it!, how to get my definition back?

[jamyjamjr]

do you know a link to a layman's explination of leptin levels. i need to look deeper in to it so i can undertsand it.

i lost the link... ask phate, he has it..

[C_Bino]

i lost the link... ask phate, he has it..

No offense but for someone who quuotes it a lot you should be able to explain it...

Anyhow, I will do so.

Leptin is a hormone in the body that you could say works inversely with another hormone called grehlin.

When you body is functioning properly they are at a balance, when you are sleep deprived and food deprived levels of grehlin increase and levels of leptin dip lower, this will cause an increase in appetite and fat storage.

So the idea is, that when on a low calorie diet for an extended period of time then leptin levels decline and grehlin increase, so having a cheat/refeed meal will help to bring those hormones more into balance.

As for the original questions...if you lost all your definition after 2 days than you didnt have much to begin with.

But of course just get back on the same diet that got you your definition in the first place...

[DSM4Life]

No offense but for someone who quuotes it a lot you should be able to explain it...

Anyhow, I will do so.

Leptin is a hormone in the body that you could say works inversely with another hormone called grehlin.

When you body is functioning properly they are at a balance, when you are sleep deprived and food deprived levels of grehlin increase and levels of leptin dip lower, this will cause an increase in appetite and fat storage.

So the idea is, that when on a low calorie diet for an extended period of time then leptin levels decline and grehlin increase, so having a cheat/refeed meal will help to bring those hormones more into balance.

As for the original questions...if you lost all your definition after 2 days than you didnt have much to begin with.

But of course just get back on the same diet that got you your definition in the first place...

Can i have a cheat me ever hr to help keep them balanced ?

[C_Bino]

Can i have a cheat me ever hr to help keep them balanced ?

Yes, for you this is ok. But, no one else.

[phat_matt85]

No offense but for someone who quuotes it a lot you should be able to explain it...

Anyhow, I will do so.

Leptin is a hormone in the body that you could say works inversely with another hormone called grehlin.

When you body is functioning properly they are at a balance, when you are sleep deprived and food deprived levels of grehlin increase and levels of leptin dip lower, this will cause an increase in appetite and fat storage.

So the idea is, that when on a low calorie diet for an extended period of time then leptin levels decline and grehlin increase, so having a cheat/refeed meal will help to bring those hormones more into balance.

As for the original questions...if you lost all your definition after 2 days than you didnt have much to begin with.

But of course just get back on the same diet that got you your definition in the first place...

I see, thanks i was actually about to google it. That makes me happy though lol. I was mad all morning, i was about to not eat any carbs today lol and tomm.

[jamyjamjr]

No offense but for someone who quuotes it a lot you should be able to explain it...

Anyhow, I will do so.

Leptin is a hormone in the body that you could say works inversely with another hormone called grehlin.

When you body is functioning properly they are at a balance, when you are sleep deprived and food deprived levels of grehlin increase and levels of leptin dip lower, this will cause an increase in appetite and fat storage.

So the idea is, that when on a low calorie diet for an extended period of time then leptin levels decline and grehlin increase, so having a cheat/refeed meal will help to bring those hormones more into balance.

As for the original questions...if you lost all your definition after 2 days than you didnt have much to begin with.

But of course just get back on the same diet that got you your definition in the first place...

wow, ur quick to get on someones case huh??

my computer crashed on me a coupla days ago... i lost all the links to my articles on diff important subjects.. take it easy...

[C_Bino]

wow, ur quick to get on someones case huh??

my computer crashed on me a coupla days ago... i lost all the links to my articles on diff important subjects.. take it easy...

I dont need to take it easy. I just state the obvious in most threads and if people get offended thats too bad. That's why I am a HOF here, because I am very well educated.

So when you ask someone, do you know what leptin levels are, and then are unable to explain it yourself without your "links to articles" I find it reflects poorly on the board since many people seem to turn to you for advice.

If you want to ask someone a question you better be damn sure you can answer it yourself...and better yet actually understand it...anyone can read and paraphrase articles.

[jamyjamjr]

I dont need to take it easy. I just state the obvious in most threads and if people get offended thats too bad. That's why I am a HOF here, because I am very well educated.

So when you ask someone, do you know what leptin levels are, and then are unable to explain it yourself without your "links to articles" I find it reflects poorly on the board since many people seem to turn to you for advice.

If you want to ask someone a question you better be damn sure you can answer it yourself...and better yet actually understand it...anyone can read and paraphrase articles.

well, first off i have no idea what an HOF is...

secondly u come off a bit harsh and abrasvie to people.. im sure u wanna let everyone here know your the TOP GUN and all, but coming down on people like that is just stupid in my opinion...

its your choice how you wanna run things bro... u do your thing, ill do mine..

[Matt]

well, first off i have no idea what an HOF is...

secondly u come off a bit harsh and abrasvie to people.. im sure u wanna let everyone here know your the TOP GUN and all, but coming down on people like that is just stupid in my opinion...

its your choice how you wanna run things bro... u do your thing, ill do mine..

HOF + Hall Of Famer...

[jamyjamjr]

HOF + Hall Of Famer...

thx matt

[Matt]

No offense but for someone who quuotes it a lot you should be able to explain it...

Anyhow, I will do so.

Leptin is a hormone in the body that you could say works inversely with another hormone called grehlin.

When you body is functioning properly they are at a balance, when you are sleep deprived and food deprived levels of grehlin increase and levels of leptin dip lower, this will cause an increase in appetite and fat storage.

So the idea is, that when on a low calorie diet for an extended period of time then leptin levels decline and grehlin increase, so having a cheat/refeed meal will help to bring those hormones more into balance.

As for the original questions...if you lost all your definition after 2 days than you didnt have much to begin with.

But of course just get back on the same diet that got you your definition in the first place...

I presume the same thing happens during an active day when your food deprived but at a faster rate??

[C_Bino]

I presume the same thing happens during an active day when your food deprived but at a faster rate??

Ya it wouldnt be too significant within the day. Hormones are always being regulated so yes they go up and down with certain rhythms of the body and also do to stress etc.

So the biggest problem will be if you are really lacking sleep.

Imagine grehlin and leptin are out of wack. Picture them to be you fuel (gas) gauge in your car. Because they are so to speak the same in your body.

If the gauge is working properly and you put fuel in it you will then burn it off at a reasonable rate, and when you step on the gas big time it goes and the rate of fuel consumption increases.

Now, if your gas gauge is broken and you dont know how much gas is in the tank and you want to go on a 4 hour drive (burn off a ton of fuel) are you gonna do it? No, instead you are going to conserve the gas...much as your body will do when leptin is decreased too much and your gauge is broken.

So dont worry about it from meal to meal and hour to hour, cuz those are just short trips right. Start to worry if you are going through periods of fasting, very low calories and bad sleep patterns

[Matt]

Ya it wouldnt be too significant within the day. Hormones are always being regulated so yes they go up and down with certain rhythms of the body and also do to stress etc.

So the biggest problem will be if you are really lacking sleep.

Imagine grehlin and leptin are out of wack. Picture them to be you fuel (gas) gauge in your car. Because they are so to speak the same in your body.

If the gauge is working properly and you put fuel in it you will then burn it off at a reasonable rate, and when you step on the gas big time it goes and the rate of fuel consumption increases.

Now, if your gas gauge is broken and you dont know how much gas is in the tank and you want to go on a 4 hour drive (burn off a ton of fuel) are you gonna do it? No, instead you are going to conserve the gas...much as your body will do when leptin is decreased too much and your gauge is broken.

So dont worry about it from meal to meal and hour to hour, cuz those are just short trips right. Start to worry if you are going through periods of fasting, very low calories and bad sleep patterns

Yeah that makes alot of sense lol.....