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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier View Post
    Look I am not here to start trouble, but you must be ignorant if you think we don't help out Britain or anyother coutnry for that matter. Whatever your feeligns are on the Iraq war (personally I am against it) you cannot argue that the US is doing the bulk of the fighting in the war on terror both in Afghanistan and in Iraq. But of course we should probably just sit back and let you guys handle it right? I mean don't you guys remember the train bombings that happend? Imagine what would happen if there was no war on terrorism.

    At the time of Obama's inarguration, the British pound was at its lowest value in 7 years, the entire worlds economy is dependent on the US, if we don't do good the world doesn't do good (unless you are China).
    Until now Britain had more troops in Afganistan than anyother country...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pocketbattleship2B View Post
    1) I am not british.
    2)You are doing the majority of the fighting because YOU declared the war on(in Iraqs case non existant WMD's) terrorism so I don't see how you can complain about that.
    3)By declairing war you ligitamise the terrorists fight,untill then they were just criminals,now they are an opposing army.
    4)Do you not get bored using the WW2 thing the whole time?Can you not come up with anything else in arguements about americas actions in the world?
    For the record I an not anti-american,I just don't like how a country that has enough money to invade other countries and tell others they are the greatest and everyone should be like them also have a huge homeless population,massive crime statistics, and millions of people living in abject poverty and some in that country still have the audacity to claim it is the greatest country in earth,despite its obvious flaws.JMO
    So you honestly feel that this war is simply justifaction for us to invade countries? So you think that if we pulled out of Iraq and Afghanistan, that nothing would happen around the world? I mean do you forget the train bombings in England and Spain? I mean Britian is leading Europe in arrests of suspected terrorists and foiling plots.

    And a huge homeless population? Tell me how 750,000 (as of 2005) homeless people is considered a huge population when we have over 304 million people living in our country? Not to mention we have up to 20 million illegal aliens from Central/South America living in here

    Quote Originally Posted by MAD MATT View Post
    I was hoping you'd say world war 2, ever heard of the Battle of Britain??
    It was the Germans atempt to invade Britain, however they failed and this was long before the US entered the war. I will say without any dought that without the massive help from the US we would never of got the rest of Europe back but we had saved our country we needed the US to help kick the Germans out of the rest of Europe..

    So your telling me we buy planes from you as you do from us, sea harrier....

    Of course we recieve help in one way or the other from the US, but your making out that we wouldnt servive without you??
    Too be fair you guys wouldn't have even been able to fight off the Germans if it wasn't for food and aid that was constantly being shipped to England. Even though we werent fighting in the war at the time, we were giving you guys tons of aid and not to mention after the war we gave out loans to all of Europe to rebuild it. Even if you were able to fight them on your own, if we didnt join the battle it would have taken Germany only a little while longer to rearm after it conquered all of Europe and than it would mount an attack on Britain. But you are right that was a long time ago, so it is not a viable excuse for this arguement.

    Military you will survive that is not the question, though the F-35 is going to play a bigger role (if it goes through) for Britain because it is an all purpose attack fighter.

    But economically, every country is linked to the US and the dollar. The dollar weighs so heavily that influcations in it causes world wide economic downturn hence the current state of affairs.

    Theres no way to sugar coat it, the last president ****ed up our economy and in turn ****ed up the world economy.

    Quote Originally Posted by MAD MATT View Post
    Until now Britain had more troops in Afganistan than anyother country...
    And that was because of US influence over Britain, I know Brits as a whole were against sending troops to war and still are, but the US influence on the British government pressured Britain into the war more so than it wanted.



    Like I said Old Chap I don't want you to get your knickers in a bunch over this dicussion it was just for fun, I know you Brits are hot headed people. Just look at your soccer games

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    I am not getting into an arguement about this with you but your comment about pulling out of afganistan and iraq,let me put it this way.Had you not gone in in the first place you wouldn't have to pull out.Both countries were stable before they were invaded,Shit holes but stable ones.And before anyone pulls the ''we were deposing a tyrant/evil ragime'' both countries were as bad as they were at the time of invasion for years before and America didn't give a sh!t then,until it was a conveniant excuse for invasion.And the Britith government is arresting so many people because they had decades of practice hunting terrorists with the IRA.

    Anyway lets not get dragged into a big fight.Can't we all get along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pocketbattleship2B View Post
    I am not getting into an arguement about this with you but your comment about pulling out of afganistan and iraq,let me put it this way.Had you not gone in in the first place you wouldn't have to pull out.Both countries were stable before they were invaded,Shit holes but stable ones.And before anyone pulls the ''we were deposing a tyrant/evil ragime'' both countries were as bad as they were at the time of invasion for years before and America didn't give a sh!t then,until it was a conveniant excuse for invasion.And the Britith government is arresting so many people because they had decades of practice hunting terrorists with the IRA.

    Anyway lets not get dragged into a big fight.Can't we all get along.
    The whole point of the war in Afghanistan was to take out the Tablian and Osama Bin Laden the mastermind of the 9/11 attacks.

    If you think we should have just brushed it off then you are more ignorant than I thought. I support the war in Afghanistan, because it was justified.

    But you are right I dont want to drag this into a big fight.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier View Post
    The whole point of the war in Afghanistan was to take out the Tablian and Osama Bin Laden the mastermind of the 9/11 attacks.

    If you think we should have just brushed it off then you are more ignorant than I thought. I support the war in Afghanistan, because it was justified.

    But you are right I dont want to drag this into a big fight.

    The vast majority of the highjackers were Saudi's,why not invade Saudi Arabia?
    Anyway

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