This is what you get for fighting for your country

[ph34rsh4ck]

It's instinct to fight back when someone is physically harming you. If a guy flashed a badge then started whooping the shit out of you, you wouldn't fight back? You would think that was ok?

Wtf?? A of all they didnt "flash" a badge theyre bright green, and there were 3 of them, and B of all we're raised our whole lives knowing that cops are there for a reason, for protection, and not to fvck with them, so your pretty much saying your first instinct if a cop is arresting you or takes you down is to resist????

[JDawg1536]

Wtf?? A of all they didnt "flash" a badge theyre bright green, and there were 3 of them, and B of all we're raised our whole lives knowing that cops are there for a reason, for protection, and not to fvck with them, so your pretty much saying your first instinct if a cop is arresting you or takes you down is to resist????

I was giving an example, it has nothing to do with the situation. Just like you think war heroes aren't above the law, NEITHER ARE POLICE. What you are saying is just because someone is a cop that gives them the right to assault someone that is suspected of a crime.

[quarry206]

IMO the guy deserved what he got.. One, though the reporter was saying he was mistaken for talking shit, watch, come on we have all talked shit to people before, you can tell that is what he was doing.. second he tried to run, he tried to resist, and he bit one of them, and even after the punches he still was resisting...

just because you serve your country in war does not mean you are a great guy and can do no wrong.. the guy was a prick resist arrest. and even though the guys were rough on him. nothing that was out of a use of force matrix for normal law enforcement.

[JiGGaMaN]

man, whats with UK and getting drunk all the time?

[JDawg1536]

IMO the guy deserved what he got.. One, though the reporter was saying he was mistaken for talking shit, watch, come on we have all talked shit to people before, you can tell that is what he was doing.. second he tried to run, he tried to resist, and he bit one of them, and even after the punches he still was resisting...

just because you serve your country in war does not mean you are a great guy and can do no wrong.. the guy was a prick resist arrest. and even though the guys were rough on him. nothing that was out of a use of force matrix for normal law enforcement.

I must have been sick the day they taught the kidney punch and asphalt face grind......

[Tigershark]

I must have been sick the day they taught the kidney punch and asphalt face grind......

[higherdesire]

I must have been sick the day they taught the kidney punch and asphalt face grind......

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[Matt]

I must have been sick the day they taught the kidney punch and asphalt face grind......

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[Matt]

man, whats with UK and getting drunk all the time?

Hahaha lol your not wrong there, were by far the worst country in Europe for getting drunk...

[ph34rsh4ck]

I must have been sick the day they taught the kidney punch and asphalt face grind......

For all you know the guy was trying to lift his face up, like MOST people do when someone is pushing their face down, and thats why his face got scraped, and that picture of the scrapes on his face is weak anyway

[Flagg]

My point is to rid the world from all cops, the armed forces would do a much better job...

Wow, you want ARMED MILITARY PERSONEL policing us and walking the streets? How far did that get N.Ireland in 35 years of British Occupation? People go on about how the West is decending into socialism, yet when you've got the miliatary policing your country that's when you've stepped into the realm of totalitarian oppression.

As for how the cops handled that...well, I agree it was over the top. The six punches was not required but why the Hell did the guy start mouthing off to 3 policeman? And then run away? He resisted arrest. Should he have got the treatment he got, prehaps not...im pretty sure if you attempt to bite anyone though, there are going to be repercussions.

In many ways I feel for the police of today. They seem to really be in a lose/lose situation where any form of restraint is frowned upon. People go on and on about wanting freedom, we're being controled by the government, etc, but EVERY SOCIETY still needs rules. Give total power to the people and you have anarchy.

People dont like policeman, they dont like law....well tough I say. Left to their own devices with no fear of reprimand, people turn into arseholes. Society requires policeman and law. It doesn't require police brutality though..

[ronan the barbarian]

i hate the police,i think on the whole they are bitch cowards.

about 5 years ago me and a group of friends were coming out of a pub on the soho road,handsworth birmingham,when officers decided to question us about some incident that happened earlier(nothing to do with us).my mate roger knew one of the people involved and got arrested for not talking and trying to walk away....where we live its better to never seen anything,you live longer that way.

the **** officers said he was 'with holding evidence' and 'resisting arrest'

anyway they cuffed him,threw him against the wall and started hitting him in the back,me and stumpy grabbed the arm of one copper who was hitting him and we all got turned over by about 10 coppers for 'assaulting a policeman'.we took a way way worse beating than that guy on utube.

we told the court roger was already cuffed when he was assaulted by the coppers,and they were aggressive as soon as they started talking to us,as many many witnesses also said.the case was thrown out,but not one of the bitch coppers were done.

oh and my brother is a copper in handswoth police!!!!!!!!!!

[scerpico22]

I just got one thing to say to all of these fvcking police brutality videos coming out all of the time...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYHfR...eature=related

[higherdesire]

Hahaha lol your not wrong there, were by far the worst country in Europe for getting drunk...

Dude when ricky hatton came over to fight the country was under siege with a lack of beer. Ya'll boys came and drank all our shit up in one week....it was on the news how much beer was sold!

[chuckt12345]

umm yea you dont fk with cops and interfere with them when your drunk. Gettin your asss whipped is a normal outcome

[ronan the barbarian]

Dude when ricky hatton came over to fight the country was under siege with a lack of beer. Ya'll boys came and drank all our shit up in one week....it was on the news how much beer was sold!

my cousin was over from canada a few years ago and i took him out with my mates,afterwards he thought we were all violent alcoholics.lol.and were not as hardcore as some people i know.

gotta love a beer,sad thing is pubs are closing down cus its got so expensive here.i dont drink beer cus it tastes nice i drink to get a bit pissed,and 1 or 2 beers wont do that.

[higherdesire]

I have gotten to where I don't really drink that much. I used to could go all night, but as I have gotten older and more responable I have foudn that hangovers last two days and I don't enjoy the times I am having after I start getting really sauced anymore, plus it interferes with my physical goals. I can put them down though. I drink Corona when I drink beer.

[Mooseman33]

those cops should be in jail.
that guy t****** and fell to the ground, he was no threat to anyone, they knew he was drunk. if they handled the situation correct, he would not of bit them, they were neglegent in their duties..
cops are or should be trained to deal with that without beating someone. the cops no this is there job when hired, they no they cant abuse people, they choose to break the rules.
makes me sick when people justify cops beating people..
COPS ARE THE KIDS WE ALL PICKED ON IN SCHOOL....now they are taking there revenge

[JDawg1536]

For all you know the guy was trying to lift his face up, like MOST people do when someone is pushing their face down, and thats why his face got scraped, and that picture of the scrapes on his face is weak anyway

Lol. He WAS trying to lift his face up, just like thousands of people that are being arrested every day do. It's not acceptable to shove a suspects face in the ground and pretend like you're grating cheese. They handled it very poorly, and that's all there is to it.

[fitluv09]

ri-damn-diculous.

[kaptainkeezy04]

if a veteran of 2 tours gets taken down by 3 police officers, then he must have been drunk, and probably acting stupid. He was probably resisting, but the tape didn't show it. They certainly didn't show the 9 minutes they claimed the "vicious" attack went on. All he got were friggin scratches on his face. BIG WHOOP!

[JDawg1536]

if a veteran of 2 tours gets taken down by 3 police officers, then he must have been drunk, and probably acting stupid. He was probably resisting, but the tape didn't show it. They certainly didn't show the 9 minutes they claimed the "vicious" attack went on. All he got were friggin scratches on his face. BIG WHOOP!

Sure, but why should cuts and scratches be an indicator of appropriate use of force? Some people bruise very easily, but that doesn't mean that an officer used too much force.

[ph34rsh4ck]

I like how they didnt show the BITE MARKS on the cops LEG/KNEE, like i said, for all they know the guy could have HIV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! good god man get real, not gonna have some random DRUNK on the street biting me on the leg/knee....

[JDawg1536]

I like how they didnt show the BITE MARKS on the cops LEG/KNEE, like i said, for all they know the guy could have HIV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! good god man get real, not gonna have some random DRUNK on the street biting me on the leg/knee....

You aren't getting it man. He bit the cop AFTER they began the use of excessive force. He was being assaulted, so it was only natural to resist and fight back. And even then, IT DOESNT MATTER! They shouldn't have assaulted him like that before he bit them, and they shouldn't have rubbed his face in the ground AFTER he bit them. Either way, they are WRONG. And just what does your last sentence mean? If they beat someone's ass good enough then the next time they won't resist or fight back? I don't think so. I'd bet on the opposite. You're entitled to your opinion, but jeez..... You would fail the interview if you applied to be a cop, that's for sure.

[ph34rsh4ck]

a of all your going about this thought process all wrong, your going at it from the DRUNK GUYS point of view, dont do that, go at it from the COPS point of view, the guys drunk, in the street, u have no idea wtf hes saying to the cops to ENTICE them in the first place, you have no idea what hes saying to them AFTER they take him down, my guess is since hes trying to resists its probably something along the lines of "go FU** yourself" and like i said, drunk or not, if a cop takes you down / approaches you, you submit, you dont resist AT ALL, and who BITES a cop like i said previously if you attack a cop or touch a cop, your done, thats it, end of story your DONE, theyre justified in doing whatever the FVCK they want, and like i said they dont know the dude could be a crackhead with HIV ETC ETC ETC, you EXPECT the worst, hope for the best

[CptAmericaX]

My point is to rid the world from all cops, the armed forces would do a much better job...

Rid the world of hippie tree hugging f.cks and the world would be better. and this f.cking war might be over already 2 alot more innocents would die, but alot less soldiers would die

[JDawg1536]

a of all your going about this thought process all wrong, your going at it from the DRUNK GUYS point of view, dont do that, go at it from the COPS point of view, the guys drunk, in the street, u have no idea wtf hes saying to the cops to ENTICE them in the first place, you have no idea what hes saying to them AFTER they take him down, my guess is since hes trying to resists its probably something along the lines of "go FU** yourself" and like i said, drunk or not, if a cop takes you down / approaches you, you submit, you dont resist AT ALL, and who BITES a cop like i said previously if you attack a cop or touch a cop, your done, thats it, end of story your DONE, theyre justified in doing whatever the FVCK they want, and like i said they dont know the dude could be a crackhead with HIV ETC ETC ETC, you EXPECT the worst, hope for the best

I am a cop. I've dealt with many drunk people. I know where you're coming from, but it just doesn't work like that. The best cops are great communicators, and deal with a lot less of that type of stuff than cops like the guys in the video. But in the end, it's their job to deal with stuff like that. Just like Vince Lombardi said to one of his players after he celebrated scoring a touchdown: "You're a Green Bay Packer, act like you've been there before". It looked like that was their first time ever dealing with a drunk guy.

[jbm]

I am a cop.

me too! lolol!

[BuckwildBaby]

me too! lolol!

me three!! lol

[JDawg1536]

me too! lolol!

Only for a few more weeks. I'm getting fired for using excessive force.

[ph34rsh4ck]

I work with cops alot, i dont know how it is in SOCAL, but i know how it is out here, and the cops out here put up with 24/7 bs, their patience is usually past the point of wearing thin everyday, and the fact that they're on an emergency scene at night probably doesnt help, but i can tell right now we're not gonna come to an agreement so... agree to disagree <3

[JDawg1536]

I work with cops alot, i dont know how it is in SOCAL, but i know how it is out here, and the cops out here put up with 24/7 bs, their patience is usually past the point of wearing thin everyday, and the fact that they're on an emergency scene at night probably doesnt help, but i can tell right now we're not gonna come to an agreement so... agree to disagree <3

Agreed.


P.S. Texas sucks.

[bd50]

I am a cop. I've dealt with many drunk people. I know where you're coming from, but it just doesn't work like that. The best cops are great communicators, and deal with a lot less of that type of stuff than cops like the guys in the video. But in the end, it's their job to deal with stuff like that. Just like Vince Lombardi said to one of his players after he celebrated scoring a touchdown: "You're a Green Bay Packer, act like you've been there before". It looked like that was their first time ever dealing with a drunk guy.

sure doesn't seem like u are, after reading this thread.

[JDawg1536]

sure doesn't seem like u are, after reading this thread.

It didn't "seem" like the guy in the video deserved an ass kicking either, did it?

[bd50]

lol,, it looked bad when the cops punched him repeatedly,,, but like everyone says, who knows what he was saying or doing just before the video starts recording.

for all we know he could have been saying "i have a gun/knife and i want to kill a cop tonight! come get me if you can fukkerss!"

and i say u don't seem like a cop because of the way u defend the drunk dude.

[JDawg1536]

lol,, it looked bad when the cops punched him repeatedly,,, but like everyone says, who knows what he was saying or doing just before the video starts recording.

for all we know he could have been saying "i have a gun/knife and i want to kill a cop tonight! come get me if you can fukkerss!"

and i say u don't seem like a cop because of the way u defend the drunk dude.

And for all we know, he could have said "I'm sorry, you got the wrong guy and I'm just a nice man who teaches third grade science". Why would it matter what he said?

The police escalated the force, not the drunk guy. I'm not defending the drunk guy at all, they were both wrong. But police officers should be held to a little higher standard than your average citizen, wouldn't you agree?

[jbm]

Only for a few more weeks. I'm getting fired for using excessive force.

[bd50]

And for all we know, he could have said "I'm sorry, you got the wrong guy and I'm just a nice man who teaches third grade science". Why would it matter what he said?

The police escalated the force, not the drunk guy. I'm not defending the drunk guy at all, they were both wrong. But police officers should be held to a little higher standard than your average citizen, wouldn't you agree?

i agree that cops should be held to higher standards,, but i disagree that it doesn't matter what the drunk was saying.

dont get me wrong, the cops were excessive here based on what we saw,, but maybe that's the "norm" in that country for cops to act like that. if it were here, they would prob be fired im sure.

[bd50]

btw jdawg, ur not really getting fired for using exc force are u?

[ph34rsh4ck]

And for all we know, he could have said "I'm sorry, you got the wrong guy and I'm just a nice man who teaches third grade science". Why would it matter what he said?

The police escalated the force, not the drunk guy. I'm not defending the drunk guy at all, they were both wrong. But police officers should be held to a little higher standard than your average citizen, wouldn't you agree?

Wellllllll thats kinda ridiculous since he is A drunk, and B standing in the middle of a street that u see cars driving by later on, and C theres an emergency scene going on...... :\