starting cycle, only want straight answers

[theblueoak]

I am on this site because i want answers from people who have great experiance with steroids. Im aware of side effects and I just want answers to the qustions i will ask, no need to critisize.

first...

I want to take a 6 week cycle of test, Im not sure which test to take...
here are my goals and maybe you will be able to name one that will help me acheive them..

10 lbs of pure muslce w/ reduction of bodyfat

also, I am deadly afraid of gyno and i want testie shrinkage at a minimum, i heard hCG is good for helping the shrinkage, but when do i take it and how much, second, what is the best PCT to prevent gyno and to get regular test levels back as quick as possible

my stats currently:

~ 187 lbs
<10% bf... 6 pack going on 8
6 feet tall

thanks alot

[theblueoak]

I am on this site because i want answers from people who have great experiance with steroids. Im aware of side effects and I just want answers to the qustions i will ask, no need to critisize.

first...

I want to take a 6 week cycle of test, Im not sure which test to take...
here are my goals and maybe you will be able to name one that will help me acheive them..

10 lbs of pure muslce w/ reduction of bodyfat

also, I am deadly afraid of gyno and i want testie shrinkage at a minimum, i heard hCG is good for helping the shrinkage, but when do i take it and how much, second, what is the best PCT to prevent gyno and to get regular test levels back as quick as possible

my stats currently:

~ 187 lbs
<10% bf... 6 pack going on 8
6 feet tall

thanks alot

[Big]

age?
pct isn't to prevent gyno, and why only 6 weeks?

[theblueoak]

old enough, age isnt important

Im not looking to get huge, i just want extra size, thats why i only want 6 weeks.
I have a girlfriend and dont want her to realise that my testies are shunken so much thats what i want something that will hopfully stop them from shrinking too much and i also fighure on a 6 week cycle it will take less time to recover my natural test

[TractionIssues]

age isnt important?... oh boy...

[Big]

age isn't important?
my advice for someone 30 would be drastically different for someone 60.
good luck I'm done here.

[TractionIssues]

I hear this from newbies all the time, I don't want to get huge, just want a bit more size. Then steroids are not for you my friend. Steroids are for people who have attained their max potential, and want to get past their limits. If you just want small lean gains, what you need is a top notch diet and some dedication, and you will get great results. Go to the diet section and we will be more than happy to help you out.

[TractionIssues]

Also your profile says your bf% is 10-12%, and on here you say under 10%. You seem to have no idea. I think it would be best you get to know your body better, and get a good routine going, trying different things out, before trying to resort to steroids for an easy way out.

[amcon]

well add in how old you are that will help with advise

as for criticize you just understand we filter people out by seeing how thick their skin is so get used to it... its not like we can see you or know you so dont stress, just get ready for it if you deserve it...

here are questions to study before you even get an answer

test and a 6 week cycle ... why???? find out how cycles of aas work and why they are 12 weeks.

study how to work a good pct... that will help with keeping the gains you get

studdy gyno... and how to prevent it, what to do and have on hand if it starts

as for ball shrinkage... come on really do you really care how big your balls are??? search hcg to make sure that is what you are looking for

[T-MOS]

someone whose NATURAL levels of hormones are at their peak would want to do things MUCH differently then someone whose hormone levels are on the decline

not to mention GROWTH PLATES...

so, you not wanting to give your True age, tells us you are either too young or too IMMATURE to be using chemicals that WILL alter your body's chemistry for the REST OF YOUR LIFE

good luck,

[theblueoak]

i made my profile months ago and just logged on today for the first time in a while. I am under 25 lets put it that way. i dont say my age because i know what i will hear cause i have already heard it. I have a great diet and excersie program. all i wanted was an asnwer to my question if you cant giv eit to me then i will wait for osmeone else

[CHAP]

You have to read more. You at least need to run for 10 weeks.

[Big]

threads merged, no reason to keep posting the same thing.

[theblueoak]

i also know steroids can stunt growth plates, i know it can slow or stop natural production of test. I am still growing and i am looking to maximise my potential, but for only a short time.

All i want is the answer to the questions, not to be bashed

[Big]

i made my profile months ago and just logged on today for the first time in a while. I am under 25 lets put it that way. i dont say my age because i know what i will hear cause i have already heard it. I have a great diet and excersie program. all i wanted was an asnwer to my question if you cant giv eit to me then i will wait for osmeone else

ok, you're too young.

[Big]

i also know steroids can stunt growth plates, i know it can slow or stop natural production of test. I am still growing and i am looking to maximise my potential, but for only a short time.

All i want is the answer to the questions, not to be bashed

sorry, we tell people what they need to hear, not what they want to hear.

[HIITB$]

6 weeks is a waste of time and money and your gf wont notice the shrinkage when you're beatn it up all night long cause you have the test levels of a young bull....just sayin

[theblueoak]

I understand that, but its also my choice on weather ot take it or not.
If you wont asnwer me then no need ot keep posting in here, thanks for your conserns though

[T-MOS]

i made my profile months ago and just logged on today for the first time in a while. I am under 25 lets put it that way. i dont say my age because i know what i will hear cause i have already heard it. I have a great diet and excersie program. all i wanted was an asnwer to my question if you cant giv eit to me then i will wait for osmeone else

WHY is it so freaking hard for you KIDS to understand that we are here to HELP you do things that will save your HEALTH for the REST OF YOUR LIFE, not for small EGO gains you will make now???????????

YOUR GROWTH PLATES have NOT FUSED YET !!!!!!!!!!!!!

do you have ANY understanding of what that means??

I could care less if you use steroids or not , I LOVE STEROIDS, but I ALSO respect them, and dont' take what they do to my body's chemistry LIGHTLY

I am NOT here to STOP you from using steroids. But to stop you from SCREWING UP YOUR ONE AND ONLY BODY

its your choice........ I don't have to live with what you do to it

[CHAP]

i made my profile months ago and just logged on today for the first time in a while. I am under 25 lets put it that way. i dont say my age because i know what i will hear cause i have already heard it. I have a great diet and excersie program. all i wanted was an asnwer to my question if you cant giv eit to me then i will wait for osmeone else

How old are !!

Be a man and say your age.

Your gonna do what your gonna do.

At leat let people know what there dealing with some will help and some will not.
And some will straight ride your a$$.

But its not fair to ask us Q's and us awnser but when we ask you ... Nothin

[jbm]

If you won't give all the exact info needed, you won't get the right advice!

[TractionIssues]

i also know steroids can stunt growth plates, i know it can slow or stop natural production of test. I am still growing and i am looking to maximise my potential, but for only a short time.

All i want is the answer to the questions, not to be bashed

If you are still growing why do you want steroids? I don't get it... It's not because your see IFBB pro's big as they are that you will get that big off one cycle. The cycle will do you so much more harm than good, esspecially at your age.

[jbm]

wrong info will get wrong advice.

[theblueoak]

Im 18, 19 shortly

Say what you will

i asked the questions in the beginning and knidly asked for the answers without being bashed

i know, 19, still growing and naturally high test levels, but i asked the question and that was it

[HIITB$]

this, will not end well

[jbm]

Im 18, 19 shortly

Say what you will

i asked the questions in the beginning and knidly asked for the answers without being bashed

i know, 19, still growing and naturally high test levels, but i asked the question and that was it

bro! you are still too young. Guys here will never answer your questions the way you want it. We are concern of your health.

[Loaded6161]

6 weeks is a waste of time and money and your gf wont notice the shrinkage when you're beatn it up all night long cause you have the test levels of a young bull....just sayin

lol what

[Twist]

DO you like your current height?

[T-MOS]

Im 18, 19 shortly

Say what you will

i asked the questions in the beginning and knidly asked for the answers without being bashed

i know, 19, still growing and naturally high test levels, but i asked the question and that was it

ok, so lets talk like adults here and answer some easy questions.

keep in mind WE ARE HERE TO HELP

WHY do you think you need steroids to reach your goals right now??

[CHAP]

Good luck . I think you have gotten some good info on tthis thread and its yours. Do what you want to .

[HIITB$]

lol what

what, what?

[TractionIssues]

Please do us all a favour, stay on this board, you have alot to learn here. I am not saying steroids are not for you, I am just saying you need to pass through a couple of stages before you start. Please visit the diet section and get something truly top notch, then get your workout training perfecting to your goals, and then add in a couple of supplements, and then tell us how your progress is going. If your doing good, maybe in 2-3 years you might be ready for a first cycle of test. But before you jump on the "miracle wagon", do what works the best, esspecially with all the testosterone in your body right now, you will grow FAST. Much faster than a kid your age who takes roids but knows nothing about diet and training. We are all here to help you GROW!

[T-MOS]

blueoak, I will try to help you and reason with you , IF you are mature enough to talk to me like an adult, and lets see what we can agree on, so you at least go about whatever you are going to do SAFELY for your FUTURE HEALTH...

keep in mind 18-19 is NOTHING when you think about living to be 80

there is JUST so much MORE to this than TAKING a pill or a shot

[CHAP]

ok, so lets talk like adults here and answer some easy questions.

keep in mind WE ARE HERE TO HELP

WHY do you think you need steroids to reach your goals right now??

T-MOS you are a good MO-FO.

You keep this place respectable.....I going to bed

[theblueoak]

i could be wrong, im young and enjoy lifting very much

i started when i was about 16 and am now looked at by my friends and other around me with respect for what ive done with my body.

I want to use them, only for a short time, because i was to increase my muscle mass to further help me acheive my goals.

I also figure the shorter the time the lesser the sides.

im not looking to load up and be enormous, im looking for a little more size in a shorter time

[T-MOS]

T-MOS you are a good MO-FO.

You keep this place respectable.....I going to bed

sleep well, I will talk to him IF he is willing to be mature and listen to reason

[Loaded6161]

i could be wrong, im young and enjoy lifting very much

i started when i was about 16 and am now looked at by my friends and other around me with respect for what ive done with my body.

I want to use them, only for a short time, because i was to increase my muscle mass to further help me acheive my goals.

I also figure the shorter the time the lesser the sides.

im not looking to load up and be enormous, im looking for a little more size in a shorter time

if your already respected why do you need to further your gains?

[T-MOS]

i could be wrong, im young and enjoy lifting very much

i started when i was about 16 and am now looked at by my friends and other around me with respect for what ive done with my body.

I want to use them, only for a short time, because i was to increase my muscle mass to further help me acheive my goals.

I also figure the shorter the time the lesser the sides.

im not looking to load up and be enormous, im looking for a little more size in a shorter time

OK, well , lets look at this then and see what we can do

shorter is NOT necessarily better or less sides.

how is your diet?

DIET is 89% of what makes gains, with and without steroids

what you need to realize is that at your age (and this is WHY age is important) you have SO MUCH natural hormones racing through your body, it would be a shame to SHUT THEM DOWN, (which is what you would be doing) just to gain 10 lbs of muscle..WHEN you could do the SAME thing and MORE just by changing how you eat.

[theblueoak]

because im not happy with my gains
and on a side note my chest will literally not grow.

Ive hit 300 on bench and 110lb dumbells for 6 reps

on bench the bar touched my chest and the dumbbells i had full extension so im guessig it isnt my form that wont let me grow... it is really my only weak point and its not my outher chest it is just my lower. i have a large outer chest so i look great with a shirt but with it off there seems to be a triangle of mass missing just between my lower chest

[jbm]

show us your complete diet...