I agree on the test ace + 1 week to be safe so on or about 4 weeks... Keeping in mind that they test the ratio for T:ET. I think you are still allowed a 6 to one on it... say 4 weeks to be safe
For the HCG it has been tested for as of late or so they say or not say on diff articles:
http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...ing.html?cat=5
The whole Manny issue is debated over and over and we really don't know exact truth...
8-10 days on the HCG