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    ok i have the arimidex, so only use it if signs start to show? how about the pct....should I use nolva, clomid, arimidex and hcg all in the pct???? you prolly wanna kill me know lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneticFreak220!! View Post
    ok i have the arimidex, so only use it if signs start to show? how about the pct....should I use nolva, clomid, arimidex and hcg all in the pct???? you prolly wanna kill me know lol
    not kill, just hurt a little

    PCT is SO diverse and there are SO many different ways to run it, the best bet is to go to the PCT section and read the STICKIES....those are the threads stuck at the top of the forum...and see which one fits best for you

    the usual is CLOMID/NOLVA

    HCG is used during cycle to help keep your nuts from shrinking, but I always say, The smaller the potatoes, the bigger the portion of meat looks !!!! JMHO

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    your a cool mofo, last question and I will leave you alone, if u should use one compound at a time should I just use the dbol by itself or the test by itself so I see how I react?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneticFreak220!! View Post
    your a cool mofo, last question and I will leave you alone, if u should use one compound at a time should I just use the dbol by itself or the test by itself so I see how I react?
    Never use D-bol by itself. put it somewhere safe for your next cycle. trust us after you see how good a simple 500mg a wek hit can do...YOU'll be back

    Phate you just love breakin; balls about the diet Ha?? I Love it!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninesecz View Post
    Never use D-bol by itself. put it somewhere safe for your next cycle. trust us after you see how good a simple 500mg a wek hit can do...YOU'll be back

    Phate you just love breakin; balls about the diet Ha?? I Love it!!
    hell yeah, it's one of the few things on this forum i have personal experience with and it's easily my best subject so i try to help apply it to others as much as possible, lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    hell yeah, it's one of the few things on this forum i have personal experience with and it's easily my best subject so i try to help apply it to others as much as possible, lol
    It's true. I thought I had a great Diet going, Low Calories, Low Fat, Low Carbs, High Protein... still needed work though.

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    so with the water retention...... should you use a diuretic? or wait til post cycle....or not at all...

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    Quote Originally Posted by going4****** View Post
    It's true. I thought I had a great Diet going, Low Calories, Low Fat, Low Carbs, High Protein... still needed work though.
    your diet was pretty good i'll admit, it was a challenge to make changes without taking away a needed nutrient

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneticFreak220!! View Post
    ok my diet....

    I wake up each day and take in a good source of protein form chicken or eggs, usually a piece of fruit, and some whole grain toast. Its probably not as big as it should be but its usually about 40g pro and 40g carbs.

    For the rest of the day I never go more than 2 or 3 hour without a meal. Its chicken breasts, turkey, or fish for my protein sources. I have been trying to limit my carbs to breakfast and post workout.

    Post workout is always a shake with about 50g pro and then I eat a good carb/pro meal about an hour later.

    I always drink a casein shake right before bed also. I usually drink my shakes with milk but I might stop doing that. I want my diet to be on point in order to get the best gains possible and to prevent any acne whatsoever.

    I easily get at least 1 gram per pound of bw. but more realistically 1.5 grams. About 7-8 meals a day including the 2 shakes.. I read to try and remove the gluten from your diet and use mainly brown rice, fruits and nuts
    this is how to post your diet, write out everything and post with macros as shown

    Breakfast
    -36g egg white protein (6 servings) (180)
    -top with 1tbsp almond oil (130)
    -2 tbsp peanut butter (200)
    Total cal-510/pro-43/carb-13/fat-31

    Meal 2-

    6 oz. grilled chicken (180)
    1 tbsp extra virgin olive oil (130)
    Total cal-310/pro-39/fat-15.5

    POST WORKOUT SHAKE
    2 scoops isopure (210)
    Pro-50g
    Fat-1
    Total cal-210/pro-50/fat-1

    Refeed PWO meal

    2 tbsp peanut butter (200)
    4 oz. turkey breast (120)
    1 tbsp olive oil (130)
    Total cal-450/pro-26/fat-32/carb-6

    Meal 5
    1 tbsp extra virgin olive oil (130)
    6 oz. turkey (180)
    Total cal-310/pro-39/fat-15.5

    Meal 6
    6 oz. tuna (180)
    3g fish oil (30)
    1 tbsp olive oil (260)

    Total cal-470/pro-39/fat-20

    Meal 7
    6 oz. London broil (280)
    pro-37
    fat-13
    3g fish oil (30)
    Fat-3
    Total calories-310/pro-37/fat-16

    DAILY TOTALS
    Calories-2570
    Pro-273
    Fat-131
    Carb-19

    Off day calories- (eliminate PWO MEAL)
    TOTAL CALS-212O
    TOTAL FAT-99
    TOTAL PRO-247
    TOTAL CARB-13



    then use this formula to figure out your TDEE

    BMR = 66 + ( 6.23 x weight in pounds ) + ( 12.7 x height in inches ) - ( 6.8 x age in year )

    # f you are sedentary (little or no exercise) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.2
    # If you are lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.375
    # If you are moderatetely active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.55
    # If you are very active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days a week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.725
    # If you are extra active (very hard exercise/sports & physical job or 2x training) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.9




    finally give us some specific goals for this diet, include what you would like to accomplish with it, how often you can eat, any allergies, etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    hell yeah, it's one of the few things on this forum i have personal experience with and it's easily my best subject so i try to help apply it to others as much as possible, lol
    I hear ya! I have done a lot of of research over the years on my diet as well and that is why I also laugh when people post their diet thinking it is great and it is horrible. I do not get into helping people much with the diet because i feel that it is just such a vast subject and peoples bodies respond different to the same substances! for instance i gain weight easier with rice than past! and not brown rice, white rice, brown rice does not sit well in my stomach. Also Been finding out lately i am kind of lactose intolerant. anything higher fat than 2% milk and any type of Mcdonald milkshake ( I am a sucker for Shamrock shakes!) I am on the toilet for 3-5 hours! The weird thing is 4 years agio when I first started learning about nutrition, I had a PT who was a nutritionist actually help me start eat 5-7X a day a wrote up my diet. I had to actually learn on ,y own and found out about the rice / pasta thing only after trying it for 2 weeks. Also had to find good MR and protein that I could mix with water xause as i said, 2 much milk and it is overwith!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninesecz View Post
    I hear ya! I have done a lot of of research over the years on my diet as well and that is why I also laugh when people post their diet thinking it is great and it is horrible. I do not get into helping people much with the diet because i feel that it is just such a vast subject and peoples bodies respond different to the same substances! for instance i gain weight easier with rice than past! and not brown rice, white rice, brown rice does not sit well in my stomach. Also Been finding out lately i am kind of lactose intolerant. anything higher fat than 2% milk and any type of Mcdonald milkshake ( I am a sucker for Shamrock shakes!) I am on the toilet for 3-5 hours! The weird thing is 4 years agio when I first started learning about nutrition, I had a PT who was a nutritionist actually help me start eat 5-7X a day a wrote up my diet. I had to actually learn on ,y own and found out about the rice / pasta thing only after trying it for 2 weeks. Also had to find good MR and protein that I could mix with water xause as i said, 2 much milk and it is overwith!
    i agree, it's all experimenting and such, i try to give a basic outline of what the person should do to accomplish their goals but in the end it's the person's responsibility to figure out whats best for them

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    are you serious 13g of carbs? eatingwise that diet is a cake walk. It is mainly just meat, olive oil, and pb. Everything I cook is in olive oil, plus I take fish oil, flaxseed, and eat pb ed. So i dont need many carbs? and only 2,000 calories. I should be shredded to the bone on that....

    my goals are to not put on any unnessecary weight. I want solid muscle only. I am not going to be eating anything bad. I just thought I would need a lil more carbs. am I gonna have any energy? As long as my diet and cardio are on point I should hopefully avoid some of the water retention.

    no allergies and chow is continuous at all times
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneticFreak220!! View Post
    your a cool mofo, last question and I will leave you alone, if u should use one compound at a time should I just use the dbol by itself or the test by itself so I see how I react?
    NEVER use dbol by itself !!!!!

    most all steroids WILL SHUT DOWN YOUR BODY'S natural testosterone production !!!!

    so you want to always use Injectable Test to replace what you shut down !!!

    that is why, TEST ONLY is the best first cycle, it is the foundation of all your future cycles even if it is just a LOW DOSE replacement of what you shut down

    you will be OK with using dbol with the test since it takes the Test E about 4-6 weeks to kick in

    Expect a LOT of water weight gain from the dbol, so don't get excited that you are gaining weight from it. you will get stronger with it, but you will lose the water weight once you stop using it, and that is why the AI is a good idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneticFreak220!! View Post
    ok i have the arimidex, so only use it if signs start to show? how about the pct....should I use nolva, clomid, arimidex and hcg all in the pct???? you prolly wanna kill me know lol
    you will start your pct exactly 14 days after your last injection.
    Run clomid and nolvadex
    Nolva 40/40/20/20
    Clomid 100/100/50/50

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