well, im in week 4 and my boyz have not shrunk! first time ever out of the 10cycles i have done! only thing is i see a little water retention and im using test prop-primo-proviiron-and winstrol (the winny for 3days now)...its probably because i used adex last cycle and it had me hard and now with nolvadex and its igf decreasing is doing all this..i need to switch off to adex quick.