hpta shutdown

[Swifto]

with the use of aas at some point of time one is going to get shut down..the question is if its mid cycle what should one do if use of hcg is a problem..what is the max time the hpta could be left shutdown for..how long can the lh and fsh be left near zero till it recovers properly and there is no threat of permanent damage..especially for people who are mid thirties,like me

The older you get (statistically) the lower your serum T will get.

Being shutdown for 12-14 weeks, should'nt be a problem, but the damage to the HPTA when one gets older, in theory, could be magnified. Thats why many have no other option but HRT.

There are compounds that can completely eliminate HPTA shutdown though. Such as Naltrexone. I've recently been reading on combining this with a GnRH agonist, such as Triptorelin Acetate.

Shutdown, could be a thing of the past.

[strength_addict14]

The older you get (statistically) the lower your serum T will get.

Being shutdown for 12-14 weeks, should'nt be a problem, but the damage to the HPTA when one gets older, in theory, could be magnified. Thats why many have no other option but HRT.

There are compounds that can completely eliminate HPTA shutdown though. Such as Naltrexone. I've recently been reading on combining this with a GnRH agonist, such as Triptorelin Acetate.

Shutdown, could be a thing of the past.

I have read a lot recently about this aswell.... it would certainly make things much easier wouldn't it. Any studies to pass along Swifto?

[Swifto]

I have read a lot recently about this aswell.... it would certainly make things much easier wouldn't it. Any studies to pass along Swifto?

Study king huh?!

There is a great article on here by Eric Portratz (Pimordial Performance's President). Have a search. Its loaded with studies.

Triptorelin Acetate is also a known GnRH agonist. But the only studies you'll find are on pubescent boys/girls with central precocious puberty (CPP).

Thats not to say it wont work.

[ganu]

The older you get (statistically) the lower your serum T will get.

Being shutdown for 12-14 weeks, should'nt be a problem, but the damage to the HPTA when one gets older, in theory, could be magnified. Thats why many have no other option but HRT.

There are compounds that can completely eliminate HPTA shutdown though. Such as Naltrexone. I've recently been reading on combining this with a GnRH agonist, such as Triptorelin Acetate.

Shutdown, could be a thing of the past.

super swifto..has anyone on this forum tried this

[Swifto]

super swifto..has anyone on this forum tried this

Not here I dont think, although I'm going to soon.

I have heard success stories at other forums and by a doctor.

[ganu]

Not here I dont think, although I'm going to soon.

I have heard success stories at other forums and by a doctor.

please let us know when you do try..cheers

[spywizard]

The older you get (statistically) the lower your serum T will get.

Being shutdown for 12-14 weeks, should'nt be a problem, but the damage to the HPTA when one gets older, in theory, could be magnified. Thats why many have no other option but HRT.

There are compounds that can completely eliminate HPTA shutdown though. Such as Naltrexone. I've recently been reading on combining this with a GnRH agonist, such as Triptorelin Acetate.

Shutdown, could be a thing of the past.

oh you are the man aren't youl;..

question though, if one is suppressed, would one have to do rigorous PcT in an attempt to regain a normal level before begining a treatment plan..

ah crap, now i have to go read a bunch.. thanks a lot..

[Swifto]

oh you are the man aren't youl;..

question though, if one is suppressed, would one have to do rigorous PcT in an attempt to regain a normal level before begining a treatment plan..

ah crap, now i have to go read a bunch.. thanks a lot..

I dont know how much Naltrexone and Triptorelin would keep ganadotrophins going. How much endogenous LH/FSH/T it would sustain during "shutdown". But I know it works.

From what I've read, you wouldnt need a PCT at all. But if you did, it would be minor IMHO.

It would be easier to get endogenous T levels back to baseline from being supressed, not shutdown.