Need opinions on cycle and pct

[Juice Authority]

I don't see why everyone is insistent on running dbol as a 'kickstart' with long acting esters. People have no patience. If you want kickstart your blood concentration levels run a fast acting test ester like Prop for the first 4-5 weeks and then add dbol. dbol is actually much more effective to incorporate as the long acting esters are kicking in or towards the end of the cycle as you start to plateau. There is a point of diminishing returns in every cycle.

[xephonics]

I don't see why everyone is insistent on running dbol as a 'kickstart' with long acting esters. People have no patience. If you want kickstart your blood concentration levels run a fast acting test ester like Prop for the first 4-5 weeks and then add dbol. dbol is actually much more effective to incorporate as the long acting esters are kicking in or towards the end of the cycle as you start to plateau. There is a point of diminishing returns in every cycle.

I was just going along with the sticky advice. This is my first cycle, so going by the stickies for beginner's test cycle seemed correct.


@big - are novi and clomid enough, or do I NEED l-dex/arim like was suggested in Pheedno's thread?

[Juice Authority]

I was just going along with the sticky advice. This is my first cycle, so going by the stickies for beginner's test cycle seemed correct.


@big - are novi and clomid enough, or do I NEED l-dex/arim like was suggested in Pheedno's thread?

Well, if it's your first cycle you should see how you respond to test first before adding any other compound. Test is the base for all cycles. I don't care what the sticky says. My first cycle was 500mgs of Sust 2x/wk and I wouldn't have changed a thing. dbol is a very powerful compound, probably the most powerful compound on an mg for mg basis next to maybe Tren.