Advice for Hardgainer. HELP

[DTA]

I'm new to the forum. I've been lifting since 7th grade. I've been on bodybuilding routines off and on the last 3 years. When I was 16 I weighed 115. The most I've ever weighed is 140. I'm 19 and 5'11" now and only weight 132. I've been very skinny my entire life. I have a very fast metabolism and eat like crazy. I've been debating taking steriods since I was 16 and I've always came to the conclusion that I would wait till I turn 21. However I don't know if I can wait that long, I'm sick of being freakishly skinny and underweight. My dream physic is 200 pounds with very low body fat. After I acheive that I would just maintain. Is this even possible naturally? Any advice would be appreciated. Let me know what you think.

Thanks and please go easy on me.

[stallion_1]

damn ur skinny

[Reed]

I know exactly what your problem your diet is really off. How much are you eating?? It can be that much. Get to the diet forum and head to the mass gaining diet. Steroids shouldn't even be in you vocabulary for now. EAT SON EAT!!!!

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

200lbs is very possible naturally.


go to the diet section, and read the stickies at the top in bold on diets and such.
create your own, post it up, and people will critique it.

you'd be surprise

steroids are a big no no for you right now.

[Kale]

So you think you are eating a lot do you. Does your diet look like this ? I bet it doesnt. And this is what you need to grow and in your case probably more than that

Meal 1: Pro/Carb

8 Egg Whites, 1 Scoop Of Whey Protein, 1 cup oatmeal

50g protein / 54g carbs / 5g fat



Meal 2: Pro/Fat

Lean Ground Beef, ¼ cup swiss cheese, green veggies

55g protein / 2g carbs / 20g fat



Meal 3: Pro/Carb

Chicken Breast, 1 and a half cup Brown Rice

55g protein / 64g carbs / 3g Fat
**Disclaimer: Meal 3 can be a pro/fat meal if you are ultra sensitive to carb intake.


Meal 4: Pro/Fat

2 Cans of Tuna, 1 Tbsp Full Fat Mayonnaise, Veggies

60g protein / 2g carbs / 13g Fat



Workout


Meal 5: PWO Nutrition

2 Scoops Whey Protein / 80g of Dextrose

40g protein / 80g carbs / 0g fat



Meal 6: PPWO

Boneless Skinless Chicken Breast, ½ cup Brown Rice (Measured Uncooked)

50g protein / 70g carbs / 3g fat



Meal 7: Pro/Fat

Lean Protein of your choice, 2 Tbsp Natural Peanut Butter
50g protein / 5g carbs / 18g fat



Meal 8: Before Bed

3 Scoops of Whey Protein, 1.5 Tbsp. Flax Seed Oil

60g protein / 3g carbs / 21g Fat


That turns into approximately 420 grams protein, 250 grams Carbs, and 83 grams of fat. This is roughly 3500 calories

[Voland]

For your height, 200lb should be possible.
I'm telling from my own experience of a überskinny guy. now i'm just skinny LOL
Just eat, eat, eat, eat, when you can't eat any solid anymore, blend anything you have and drink it. GO heavy, low reps, avoid cardio, rest, rest.

[CanthookitLs6]

You're not eating enough and you're not being consistent. Steroids won't do a thing for you. Get on a disciplined diet, (read the diet section) get a gym membership, a workout partner and start lift heavy, (squats, deadlifts, bench, rows, etc).

You are the same size I was when I joined this forum. I didn't have to take any roids to get to the 215lbs mark I'm at currently. You sound just like me, "I'm a hardgainer, eat like crazy and stay skinny". Blah blah. No offense man, but you look like you're training on a home gym and eating fast food.

[DSM4Life]

No where near ready . I don't need your stats to see it as we can all tell from the picture.
Diet, training and time is all you need.

Good luck.

[thecivilizedanimal]

you definitely need to get your diet i check.

you say youve been lifting for three years yet you're really lean and have very little definition?, ( and very little muscle mass)

it looks as your not working nearly hard enough.,
lift more.

maybe find a powerlifting routine that you can workwith.

[kickinit]

No need for Roids. No matter your metabolism your not doing something or anything correct.

[DTA]

Thanks for the advice. I going to start this tommorow. Please critique and tell me if I need to change something. The times reflect my personal schedule. Also it would be great if someone could help me figure out how many calories this is. Thanks!

NEW PLAN:

Sunday – Chest, Shoulders, Triceps
Tuesday – Legs
Thursday – Back, Biceps, Traps

Drink 1 gallon of water daily

Supplements/Meds:
50MCG Synthroid (for Hypothyroidism), Multi-Vitamin, ON's Pro-Complex Gainer


Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday:
8am – Wake up
8-9am – 4 large eggs, 5 slices center-cut bacon, 3 frozen biscuits
12pm – 1 slice wheat toast, 2 table spoons peanut butter, 1 banana
3-4pm – 1 scoop Pro-Complex Gainer, 2% milk
6-7pm – Dinner (something with hamburger meat and sides, or chicken breasts & rice)
10pm - WORKOUT
10:30pm – Cranapple Juice, 1 serving OP Pro Complex Gainer, multi-vitamin
11pm – Bedtime

Monday & Wednesday:
8am – Wake up
8:30am – 4 large eggs, 5 slices center-cut bacon, 3 frozen biscuits
11:30am – 1 slice wheat toast, 2 table spoons peanut butter, 1 banana
12-4:05pm - Class
4:30 – Go out to eat (ie: steak & shrimp, pizza, steak fajitas, stuffed flounder, or simular big meal but these are my favorites)
5:40-9:45pm – Class
10pm – 1 can tuna, 2 slices wheat bread, 1 cup raw veggies
10:30pm – 1 serving Pro-Complex Gainer, 2% milk, multi-vitamin
11pm – Bedtime

Friday & Saturday:
No set schedule. I'm at the lake wakeboarding these days. So I would cook a large breakfast before going out. Bring a snack for at the lake. Then eat as much as possible when I get back home.

ETA: My goal is to weight 150 by January 1st!!! Possible? That's almost 1 pound per week.

[FallenWyvern]

Thanks for the advice. I going to start this tommorow. Please critique and tell me if I need to change something. The times reflect my personal schedule. Also it would be great if someone could help me figure out how many calories this is. Thanks!

NEW PLAN:

Sunday – Chest, Shoulders, Triceps
Tuesday – Legs
Thursday – Back, Biceps, Traps

Drink 1 gallon of water daily

Supplements/Meds:
50MCG Synthroid (for Hypothyroidism), Multi-Vitamin, ON's Pro-Complex Gainer


Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday:
8am – Wake up
8-9am – 4 large eggs, 5 slices center-cut bacon, 3 frozen biscuits
12pm – 1 slice wheat toast, 2 table spoons peanut butter, 1 banana
3-4pm – 1 scoop Pro-Complex Gainer, 2% milk
6-7pm – Dinner (something with hamburger meat and sides, or chicken breasts & rice)
10pm - WORKOUT
10:30pm – Cranapple Juice, 1 serving OP Pro Complex Gainer, multi-vitamin
11pm – Bedtime

Monday & Wednesday:
8am – Wake up
8:30am – 4 large eggs, 5 slices center-cut bacon, 3 frozen biscuits
11:30am – 1 slice wheat toast, 2 table spoons peanut butter, 1 banana
12-4:05pm - Class
4:30 – Go out to eat (ie: steak & shrimp, pizza, steak fajitas, stuffed flounder, or simular big meal but these are my favorites)
5:40-9:45pm – Class
10pm – 1 can tuna, 2 slices wheat bread, 1 cup raw veggies
10:30pm – 1 serving Pro-Complex Gainer, 2% milk, multi-vitamin
11pm – Bedtime

Friday & Saturday:
No set schedule. I'm at the lake wakeboarding these days. So I would cook a large breakfast before going out. Bring a snack for at the lake. Then eat as much as possible when I get back home.

ETA: My goal is to weight 150 by January 1st!!! Possible? That's almost 1 pound per week.

Your diet is horrid. Do what Kale said.

[DTA]

I have class for almost 10 hours two days a week. I work the rest. How the heck am I supposed to get in 8 meals a day?

[BigBrad330]

bring it with you and find ways to eat it

[DTA]

Ok I'm going to work on my diet some more tonight and count the calories. Then I'll post it up for you guys to check. So about how many calories am I shooting for? I was thinking between 3000-3500...

[B.E.N.]

I have class for almost 10 hours two days a week. I work the rest. How the heck am I supposed to get in 8 meals a day?

Until you start finding answers and stop finding excuses you won't progess.

Starkist tuna comes in pouches that can be ripped open, cans of almonds, diced chicken breast mixed with greens, hardboiled eggs, etc.

Those all travel and only take a plastic fork. Some people may disagree with me but I would recommend you start drinking more milk. I carry a quart of skim milk with me a lot. Great source of protein and carbs.

Start logging your workouts and that will keep you accountable as well.

[Bio-boosted]

bring it with you and find ways to eat it

Bumping this!
You're on a mission now right? Plan your meals for the day (they don't have to be massive) and pack a bag / rucksack. It can be done.
2 or 3 of those small luchboxes with brown rice, peas and a sliced chik breast in them, for example. Veggies like raw, sliced carrots are good with a tub of tuna and mayo. I'd even take some fruit with you, a couple of apples and a 'nana are very sugary but right now it won't hurt...
And keep it up mate, you'll be well chuffed by xmas

[Makethemsuffer]

bring it with you and find ways to eat it

ur a dick

[DSM4Life]

ur a dick

Why is that ?

I guess your not aware of our no flame policy. So watch it.

[warchild]

read the rules

[stpete]

Until you start finding answers and stop finding excuses you won't progess.

Starkist tuna comes in pouches that can be ripped open, cans of almonds, diced chicken breast mixed with greens, hardboiled eggs, etc.

Those all travel and only take a plastic fork. Some people may disagree with me but I would recommend you start drinking more milk. I carry a quart of skim milk with me a lot. Great source of protein and carbs.

Start logging your workouts and that will keep you accountable as well.

Great ideas imo.

[BigBrad330]

ur a dick

i felt it was a good suggestion to help him out

[CanthookitLs6]

I have class for almost 10 hours two days a week. I work the rest. How the heck am I supposed to get in 8 meals a day?

Hey man, bring tuna mixed with swiss cheese and mayo in a container. Eat beef jerky as a snack. Try meal replacement shakes, (not too many though, nothing will replace solid high-protien food).

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ast/ny-tro.html

Don't get discouraged bro, if you dedicate yourself and do a little planning your goals are 100% attainable, (no matter how hectic your schedule gets).

[DTA]

Ok so I changed it a tad and counted all the calories. Let me know what you think. I think 3,500 calories should be enough, the only thing I'm worried about is the stretch on Monday and Wednesday from 4pm to 10pm. However, I'm usually not hungary between this time since I go out to eat and eat my biggest meal (besides breakfast) of the day right before that. So, if it's not necessary for me to bring something to eat with me to class I wouldn't. Let me know what you think of my diet. The faster I can get everything perfected the fast I can start getting bigger. Thanks.

Monday, Wednesday

8am – 1 serving ON's Pro-Complex Gainer, Synthroid, Multi-Vitamin
60g protein/ 85g carbohydrates/ 15g fat

8:30am – 4 Egg Omelette, 6 Slices Bacon, 3 Biscuits
51g protein/ 70g carbohydrates/ 53g fat

11am – Turkey & Cheese Sandwich on wheat
14g protein/ 26g carbohydrates/ 7g fat

CLASS

4:05pm – Eat Out
30g protein/ 40g carbohydrates/ 30g fat (At least but probably more)

CLASS

10pm – Tuna Sandwich on Wheat, 1 cup Raw Vegetables
42g protein/ 31g carbohydrates

10:30pm – 1 serving ON's Pro-Complex Gainer, Vitamins
60g protein/ 85g carbohydrates/ 15g fat

---------------------------------
Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday

9am – Synthroid, Multi-Vitamin

9:30am – 4 Egg Omelette, 6 Slices Bacon, 3 Biscuits
51g protein/ 70g carbohydrates/ 53g fat

12pm – Turkey & Cheese Sandwich on Wheat
14g protein/ 26g carbohydrates/ 7g fat

3pm – 1 serving Pro-Complex Gainer
60g protein/ 85g carbohydrates/ 15g fat

6pm – Cook Dinner (something with hamburger meat or chicken breasts and sides)
30g protein/ 40g carbohydrates/ 30g fat (At least but probably more)

7pm WORKOUT

PWO – Juice, 1 serving ON's Pro-Complex Gainer, Vitamins Bs, C
60g protein/ 85g carbohydrates/ 15g fat

9:30pm – Tuna Sandwich on Wheat, 1 cup Raw Veggies
42g protein/ 31g carbohydrates


Daily Totals for both days are the same.
Protein: 257g or 1028 calories
Carbohydrates: 337g or 1348 calories
Fat: 120g or 1080 calories
TOTAL CALORIES: 3456

[Big]

ur a dick

his answer was helpful, yours....not so much. consider this a warning, or I'll put your ass in time out.

[DSM4Life]

his answer was helpful, yours....not so much. consider this a warning, or I'll put your ass in time out.

Your such a turn on when your demanding

[DTA]

can we get back to my diet now? thanks.

[Big]

can we get back to my diet now? thanks.

sorry about that.
the members pic section doesn't get a lot of traffic, you should consider opening a thread in the diet section and posting your diet and stats there, you will get more feedback.

[DTA]

sorry about that.
the members pic section doesn't get a lot of traffic, you should consider opening a thread in the diet section and posting your diet and stats there, you will get more feedback.

could you move it for me?

[Big]

could you move it for me?

done

[DSM4Life]

[B.E.N.]

Ok so I changed it a tad and counted all the calories. Let me know what you think. I think 3,500 calories should be enough, the only thing I'm worried about is the stretch on Monday and Wednesday from 4pm to 10pm. However, I'm usually not hungary between this time since I go out to eat and eat my biggest meal (besides breakfast) of the day right before that. So, if it's not necessary for me to bring something to eat with me to class I wouldn't. Let me know what you think of my diet. The faster I can get everything perfected the fast I can start getting bigger. Thanks.

Monday, Wednesday

8am – 1 serving ON's Pro-Complex Gainer, Synthroid, Multi-Vitamin
60g protein/ 85g carbohydrates/ 15g fat

8:30am – 4 Egg Omelette, 6 Slices Bacon, 3 Biscuits
51g protein/ 70g carbohydrates/ 53g fat

11am – Turkey & Cheese Sandwich on wheat
14g protein/ 26g carbohydrates/ 7g fat

CLASS

4:05pm – Eat Out
30g protein/ 40g carbohydrates/ 30g fat (At least but probably more)

CLASS

10pm – Tuna Sandwich on Wheat, 1 cup Raw Vegetables
42g protein/ 31g carbohydrates

10:30pm – 1 serving ON's Pro-Complex Gainer, Vitamins
60g protein/ 85g carbohydrates/ 15g fat

---------------------------------
Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday

9am – Synthroid, Multi-Vitamin

9:30am – 4 Egg Omelette, 6 Slices Bacon, 3 Biscuits
51g protein/ 70g carbohydrates/ 53g fat

12pm – Turkey & Cheese Sandwich on Wheat
14g protein/ 26g carbohydrates/ 7g fat

3pm – 1 serving Pro-Complex Gainer
60g protein/ 85g carbohydrates/ 15g fat

6pm – Cook Dinner (something with hamburger meat or chicken breasts and sides)
30g protein/ 40g carbohydrates/ 30g fat (At least but probably more)

7pm WORKOUT

PWO – Juice, 1 serving ON's Pro-Complex Gainer, Vitamins Bs, C
60g protein/ 85g carbohydrates/ 15g fat

9:30pm – Tuna Sandwich on Wheat, 1 cup Raw Veggies
42g protein/ 31g carbohydrates


Daily Totals for both days are the same.
Protein: 257g or 1028 calories
Carbohydrates: 337g or 1348 calories
Fat: 120g or 1080 calories
TOTAL CALORIES: 3456

Getting better...slightly.

Let me just begin to point you in the right direction. You need to be eating every 2.5/3 hours. Class or no class, work or no work. You can manage it just get creative. I know there are some fat asses sitting in class munching on Doritos and chugging Dr. Pepper. Why can't you eat a chicken breast or hard boiled eggs? Far too much time between meals...

Shakes are not going to cut it for you. Re-read that statement before proceeding.

For you shakes are a supplement, meaning an ADDITION, to your soon to be thorough diet. I would suggest a shake in the morning, after workout, and possibly with milk prior to bed.

I'm just scratching the surface here and pointing out the very obvious issues. I would look through other's posts and see what some other diets look like in comparison to yours. We can give you a diet but if you don't understand the mechanics of dieting you are doomed.

I also stand by my previous advice...log your workouts. I am willing to bet your diet is not the only factor hindering your growth.

[Kale]

Your such a turn on when your demanding

Your just saying that because he used the word ass !!!!!

[blazerelf]

damn ur skinny

dude ur an asshole dont comment if u aint going to help..

[Big]

dude ur an asshole dont comment if u aint going to help..

while I appreciate your position, you bumped an antique thread to call a suspended member a name, and the member you're talking to hasn't even been here in 6 months.
thread closed.