No gains...

[Sauced_Up]

Ya the prohormone

Hdrol is not a prohormone, it is a steroid

Shouldnt i see gains from that atleast?

Gains from Hdrol start to show around the 2nd to 3rd week, thats why a 6 week cycle of Hdrol is always advised. Its is weak so youll only see about a 5lb gain

[Immortal Soldier]

Hdrol is not a prohormone, it is a steroid

No, my friend it is not. A Pro-hormones need to be converted in the body into a steroid. Hdrol is a clone of Halodrol-50 a prohormone that converts into tbol.

For it to be registered as an oral steroid it needs no conversion and be the active ingredient of the steroid compound.

[c-Z]

No, my friend it is not. A Pro-hormones need to be converted in the body into a steroid. Hdrol is a clone of Halodrol-50 a prohormone that converts into tbol.

For it to be registered as an oral steroid it needs no conversion and be the active ingredient of the steroid compound.

Impressive Hah.

Hows your diet OP?

[Sauced_Up]

No, my friend it is not. A Pro-hormones need to be converted in the body into a steroid. Hdrol is a clone of Halodrol-50 a prohormone that converts into tbol.

For it to be registered as an oral steroid it needs no conversion and be the active ingredient of the steroid compound.

Sorry my friend but your wrong. H-drol is a prosteroid to tbol, I know that. The only difference is h-drol is halogenated on the 2nd carbon hence why its name halodrol. It is methylated and is already active and does not need to be converted by the liver.

HENCE WHY I SAID ITS A STEROID

[Immortal Soldier]

Sorry my friend but your wrong. H-drol is a prosteroid to tbol, I know that. The only difference is h-drol is halogenated on the 2nd carbon hence why its name halodrol. It is methylated and is already active and does not need to be converted by the liver.

HENCE WHY I SAID ITS A STEROID

Methylation has really nothing to do with conversion, the prohormones of old (before the major ban) were methylated that didn't mean they were steroids. A compound that is methylated is done so to protect the compound from liver breakdown and allow more of the oral to reach the bloodstream.

A 'prosteroid' (as you put it) to tbol means it is a precursor to tbol, meaning most likely it is an analogue of tbol. Thus in my book it is not a steroid by definition, but rather a step below. The efficiency of hormone reaching the bloodstream is not the same, people say to reach the anabolic effect level of tbol you have to overdose hdrol.

I consider Superdrol an oral steroid, but I do not consider hdrol an oral steroid for reasons I discussed above. In the end it really doesn't matter since the line is blurred.

[Sauced_Up]

Methylation has really nothing to do with conversion, the prohormones of old (before the major ban) were methylated that didn't mean they were steroids. A compound that is methylated is done so to protect the compound from liver breakdown and allow more of the oral to reach the bloodstream.

A 'prosteroid' (as you put it) to tbol means it is a precursor to tbol, meaning most likely it is an analogue of tbol. Thus in my book it is not a steroid by definition, but rather a step below. The efficiency of hormone reaching the bloodstream is not the same, people say to reach the anabolic effect level of tbol you have to overdose hdrol.

I consider Superdrol an oral steroid, but I do not consider hdrol an oral steroid for reasons I discussed above. In the end it really doesn't matter since the line is blurred.

Heres some more evidence on Hdrol being a steroid....

http://soraonline.org/supplement-kno...androstenediol


Not trying to be a dick, just trying to educate a bit. I didnt believe half these so called PH were steroids when I first started using them a year ago until I learned the importance of researching everything before you dabble into them...

[Immortal Soldier]

Heres some more evidence on Hdrol being a steroid....

http://soraonline.org/supplement-kno...androstenediol


Not trying to be a dick, just trying to educate a bit. I didnt believe half these so called PH were steroids when I first started using them a year ago until I learned the importance of researching everything before you dabble into them...

I don't see yourself as coming off as a dick, to the contrary we are having an intellectual debate so here is my counter-argument:

Taken from your own article you posted:

"It is essentially a "diol" form of Oral Turinabol, and with this understanding is [h-drol] often described as a "prohormome" or "prosteroid" to this well-known and highly valued anabolic steroid. [t-bol]"

What you need to understand is every pro-hormone is copied off an oral steroid/steroid, the point is in the conversion process the amount of actual hormone that reaches the body is very low (less than 10%). Just because they are based off a steroid, doesn't make them a steroid, they are precursors meaning in the chemical sense they are what turns into the final form of steroids. And thats how they beat the law, technically they aren't steroids they are the early stages of it.

The old pro-hormones (1AD, 4AD, etc.) were actual pro-hormones, however, recently more and more compounds are being released that are no longer PH/PS, but rather designer steroid, hence Superdrol/Demethyazine.

[Sauced_Up]

I don't see yourself as coming off as a dick, to the contrary we are having an intellectual debate so here is my counter-argument:

Taken from your own article you posted:

"It is essentially a "diol" form of Oral Turinabol, and with this understanding is [h-drol] often described as a "prohormome" or "prosteroid" to this well-known and highly valued anabolic steroid. [t-bol]"

What you need to understand is every pro-hormone is copied off an oral steroid/steroid, the point is in the conversion process the amount of actual hormone that reaches the body is very low (less than 10%). Just because they are based off a steroid, doesn't make them a steroid, they are precursors meaning in the chemical sense they are what turns into the final form of steroids. And thats how they beat the law, technically they aren't steroids they are the early stages of it.

The old pro-hormones (1AD, 4AD, etc.) were actual pro-hormones, however, recently more and more compounds are being released that are no longer PH/PS, but rather designer steroid, hence Superdrol/Demethyazine.

Good to know were have a real debate as most of the time people just argue on and on without any reference or sound reasoning behind their claims.

What I got from that exact quote "...often described as a "prohormome" or "prosteroid".... " is that its commonly called a PH/PS but from the reference to the very first line of its description CHLORODEHYDROMETHYLANDROSTENEDIOL (4-chloro-17a-methylandrostA-1, 4-diene-3-17b-diol) it is in the end an oral anabolic steroid derived from testosterone.


Either way I think we can both agree that the compound is very weak compared to its big brother Tbol