i know...immortal u are right...i don't look like a juice head, which is a good thing but what should i do now, drop everything cold turkey??? i was gonna finish this cycle off and then do it from there...i know plenty of my friends who are my age (25) and just never get off juice, and they are fine...they just switch compounds...but i guess unless im truely a bodybuilder whats the point??? im not offended by anything u said, and i know ur right, so what do i do now...just jump on a pct??? get some hcg???