Setting unrealistic goals.

[seriousmass]

This kinda relates... but I hate how when people say there stats, the auto response on this forum is....

"you're 5'9 and ONLY 185 pounds... you should EASILY be able to get to 210 - 220 naturally at your height."

^^ and thats an exact quote btw.

I just don't have a F*CKING clue how some of the members on here can consistently make such a presumptuous comment; moreover, knowing little to nothing about the member. Not to mention the fact that I'd say the vast majority of people on here are interested in steroids for their own vanity. Most aren't looking to achieve their natural potential; and then juice... because simply put: THEIR NOT PLANNING ON GOING ON STAGE... ever!!!

It seems to me like a lot of unrealistic advice.

I dunno, just my 0.02's.. I'm sure it'll stir up some opposition.

[KatsMeow]

This kinda relates... but I hate how when people say there stats, the auto response on this forum is....

"you're 5'9 and ONLY 185 pounds... you should EASILY be able to get to 210 - 220 naturally at your height."

^^ and thats an exact quote btw.

I just don't have a F*CKING clue how some of the members on here can consistently make such a presumptuous comment; moreover, knowing little to nothing about the member. Not to mention the fact that I'd say the vast majority of people on here are interested in steroids for their own vanity. Most aren't looking to achieve their natural potential; and then juice... because simply put: THEIR NOT PLANNING ON GOING ON STAGE... ever!!!

It seems to me like a lot of unrealistic advice.

I dunno, just my 0.02's.. I'm sure it'll stir up some opposition.

Personally I refuse to feed your egotistical "all knowing" responses that you are prepared to dish out since no matter what you say you believe it is fact and there is no other solution.

If someone tells me that something should be easy like dropping 20lbs on a consistent basis, I'm going to sit back and analyze.. well you know if I don't slip up in the slightest and put 100% of my mind body and spirit into it then yes it will come easily.

People on this site sometimes come here looking for an easy quick fix, and quite honestly it's aggravating to the people who live and breath bodybuilding. People don't understand the passion that is involved in this lifestyle. So when the 200th newb comes on here and says I eat non stop and can't gain weight...bullshit! I promise you they aren't making good food choices and 100% dedicated.

[seriousmass]

If someone tells me that something should be easy like dropping 20lbs on a consistent basis, I'm going to sit back and analyze.. well you know if I don't slip up in the slightest and put 100% of my mind body and spirit into it then yes it will come easily.

People on this site sometimes come here looking for an easy quick fix, and quite honestly it's aggravating to the people who live and breath bodybuilding. People don't understand the passion that is involved in this lifestyle. So when the 200th newb comes on here and says I eat non stop and can't gain weight...bullshit! I promise you they aren't making good food choices and 100% dedicated.

^^ this part is simply ridiculous. You don't think people can be dedicated, yet use steroids concurrently?

BTW, when did you start using steroids? (age).

...Also, you obviously didn't comprehend my post so I'll try and make it simpler so that even you can understand:

YES, I respect the fact that people eat/breath bodybuilding. But MOST of the people that come on here and looking to obtain quality mass, and achieve a functional weight. They are not looking to be walking around their office buildings @ 5'8 and 250 pounds, like a f*cking silverback during mating season.

Open your eyes.

[Immortal Soldier]

^^ this part is simply ridiculous. You don't think people can be dedicated, yet use steroids concurrently?

BTW, when did you start using steroids? (age).

...Also, you obviously didn't comprehend my post so I'll try and make it simpler so that even you can understand:

YES, I respect the fact that people eat/breath bodybuilding. But MOST of the people that come on here and looking to obtain quality mass, and achieve a functional weight. They are not looking to be walking around their office buildings @ 5'8 and 250 pounds, like a f*cking silverback during mating season.

Open your eyes.

It's funny how you say why Katsmeow posts in the Q&A when in fact she knows more about steroid cycles than you do.

It's hilarious, we all follow your responses and you get called out more often than not only to never return to those threads again.

You talk about Tren/Deca/A-bombs/etc. when you have never ran them and alot of times people have to correct your interpertation of those compounds and advice you give.

To be honest I never had a problem with you before, until people started talking about you and I actually started reading what you wrote instead of just skimming.

I don't see why you need to have this "Napleon Complex" where you think you know all this shit when face facts you are a rookie so stop trying to come off as a huge gearhead, if you do that there will be no problem.

[KatsMeow]

^^ this part is simply ridiculous. You don't think people can be dedicated, yet use steroids concurrently?

BTW, when did you start using steroids? (age).

...Also, you obviously didn't comprehend my post so I'll try and make it simpler so that even you can understand:

YES, I respect the fact that people eat/breath bodybuilding. But MOST of the people that come on here and looking to obtain quality mass, and achieve a functional weight. They are not looking to be walking around their office buildings @ 5'8 and 250 pounds, like a f*cking silverback during mating season.

Open your eyes.

Let me tell you something about life RESPECT is earned! You on the other hand will continue to be a usless waste of space until that sinks into your thick skull.

It's obvious you don't comprehend my comments I'm saying that some people want a simple quick fix and come to a forum where people are protective over their lifestyle and look down upon those who don't understand it, yet want to abuse it.

Either learn how to shut your whiny ass mouth and become a respected member or take your unsolicited nonsense elsewhere little boy.

[T-MOS]

Let me tell you something about life RESPECT is earned! You on the other hand will continue to be a usless waste of space until that sinks into your thick skull.

It's obvious you don't comprehend my comments I'm saying that some people want a simple quick fix and come to a forum where people are protective over their lifestyle and look down upon those who don't understand it, yet want to abuse it.

Either learn how to shut your whiny ass mouth and become a respected member or take your unsolicited nonsense elsewhere little boy.

^^^ Agreed !!!!!! X100

open your EARS seriousass..... most come here looking for the EASY way to fat loss or muscle gain.....they think they can go out and drink all weekend , take steroids and lose the fat.....

they don't have the BASIC concepts to maintain their natural potential or even get to their natural potential.

now your first example above about the 5'9 guy, is understandable, BUT i am rather pretty accurate on the height/weight ratio thing, so just one member may stretch that weight, doesn't mean it isn't a valid stat to look at to see where the person is at and what type of QUICK FIX they are looking for

got that TINY??? or do I need to make it simpler for even YOU to understand??

[Hoggage_54]

open your EARS seriousass..... most come here looking for the EASY way to fat loss or muscle gain.....they think they can go out and drink all weekend , take steroids and lose the fat.....

+1... I'm still trying to figure out how I can drink all weekend and take steroids and lose the fat

[Immortal Soldier]

This kinda relates... but I hate how when people say there stats, the auto response on this forum is....

"you're 5'9 and ONLY 185 pounds... you should EASILY be able to get to 210 - 220 naturally at your height."

^^ and thats an exact quote btw.

I just don't have a F*CKING clue how some of the members on here can consistently make such a presumptuous comment; moreover, knowing little to nothing about the member. Not to mention the fact that I'd say the vast majority of people on here are interested in steroids for their own vanity. Most aren't looking to achieve their natural potential; and then juice... because simply put: THEIR NOT PLANNING ON GOING ON STAGE... ever!!!

It seems to me like a lot of unrealistic advice.

I dunno, just my 0.02's.. I'm sure it'll stir up some opposition.

You are just butthurt because people told you not to do steroids at 6'1 169lbs and you went ahead and did it.

Now 5'9 185lbs is pretty big for someone of that height so I wouldn't care if someone posted those stats. Personally unless you are at a bad weight, I don't say "you can get to xxx lbs naturally". But if you are 5'10 140lbs and want to do steroids, I would have to be an idiot to say go right ahead.

But going on steroids at 6'1 169lbs is redicioulous, I would know because I am 6'1 and when I first started working i use to be 134lbs. You can get to 200lbs EASY and when I say easy I mean EASY. You just have to train right and eat right, simple as that.

Now if a user just wants to take the shortcut, GO RIGHT AHEAD no body is stopping you, but alot of those shortcut guys fizzle out quickly because they don't have DEDICATION they rely on outside source (ie. hormones) to give what they cant give themselves.