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    Quote Originally Posted by anabolic-abuse View Post
    Thank You!

    The Balls look great kidding.. they are at least grown back to a "normal size" since I finished PCT.

    I think, the libido problems are most likely the combination of low test AND low estrogen, and possibly low LH...

    Clomid should at least raise LH levels and help achieve higher test-levels, right?

    Yes - Clomid will do both these two things.

    But what to do about the low estrogen? I am afraid, that using an AI (l-dex?) would totally **** up estrogen levels... :/
    Use an AI (l-dex) during the extended PCT protocol. What this will do is eliminate around 98% of total free estrogen... And then the SERM's (nolva / clomid) will work at raising LH / block the estrogen receptors in breast tissue simultaneously.

    Continue taking viagra / cialis during PCT, you'll definitely need it, as your estrogen levels will be DRAMATICALLY lowered = high possibility for erectile dysfunction.

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    And you think the estrogen levels can (hopefully) raise up again to a certain level after this pct is done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anabolic-abuse View Post
    And you think the estrogen levels can (hopefully) raise up again to a certain level after this pct is done?
    Yup.

    But, I'd stick to worrying more about your testosterone levels recovering for now..

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    Any other suggestions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seriousmass View Post
    Use an AI (l-dex) during the extended PCT protocol. What this will do is eliminate around 98% of total free estrogen... And then the SERM's (nolva / clomid) will work at raising LH / block the estrogen receptors in breast tissue simultaneously.

    Continue taking viagra / cialis during PCT, you'll definitely need it, as your estrogen levels will be DRAMATICALLY lowered = high possibility for erectile dysfunction.
    Really.

    So if he has low testosterone levels, therfore low estrogen levels...And has BW to prove it. Why an earth would he want to lower estrogen further?

    AI's dont, "...eliminate around 98% of total free estrogen". Letro does. Arimidex and Aromasin dont.

    What will, "...work at raising LH / block the estrogen receptors in breast tissue simultaneously". Blocking E in the breast tissue have to do with restarting an HPTA?

    Ok...

    You dont need an AI.

    You shouldnt have done a 10month cycle and think you'll bounce back immediately. Do you compete?

    If your HPTA doesnt bounce back after the extended use of SERMs. Your not going to recover and will require HRT. Simple as that.

    wk 1-4 Clomid 50mg/ED
    wk 4-8 Clomid 25mg/ED
    wk 1-8 Tamox 20mg/ED

    That doesnt work, nothing will.

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