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[lostcause]

unless you are playing quaterback, football requirs the least amount of skill out of any major sport. but i do love it!

[BgMc31]

unless you are playing quaterback, football requirs the least amount of skill out of any major sport. but i do love it!

That is the most assinine comment I've ever read!!!! You must have never played it!!!

[illwillogical]

That is the most assinine comment I've ever read!!!! You must have never played it!!!

I hear you claim to be former NFL. Do you hide your identity?

[lostcause]

That is the most assinine comment I've ever read!!!! You must have never played it!!!

there is no way of ever proving any of this from either side. to compete at the highest level of any sport takes a great deal of talent, training, skill, and genetics. this is my point. hypothetical: if you take a high school kid (17) who is 6ft 185 lbs who has never played any sport, rank in order wich one of these he would be able to compete in the earliest: baseball, football, basketball, mma, golf.

1.football 2. basketball 3. mma 4. baseball 5. golf

yes i have played/coached football my whole life and am an avid fan. ive seen kids with absolutly no experience playing football be able to walk on the field and compete for starting jobs immediately. you dont see that in any of these other sports, thats my point. in football, speed and size trumps technique, in the others technique trumps speed and size.

[BgMc31]

You are talking high school sports and I don't know what state you are from that what you are saying doesn't always apply, especially in football happy states like Texas, California, and Florida where natural talent is abundant. Unlike any other sport, no one can come from high school and be an effective football player, regardless of talent. And there has been very very very few athletes that have come to professional athletes from other sports and were successful. The NFL has many athletes (track stars, basketball players, wrestlers, etc.) who thought because they have natural ability they could play the sport. The vast majority have failed!!!!!

If you are referring to high school sports, then your theory applies to just about every sport but golf. A good athlete will excel at just about any sport in a small talent pool. But at the professional level, to say football needs the least amount of technique and skill then you truly don't know the game, regardless of how long you've coached. I've been there, I've seen it!!!

[J-Dogg]

You are talking high school sports and I don't know what state you are from that what you are saying doesn't always apply, especially in football happy states like Texas, California, and Florida where natural talent is abundant. Unlike any other sport, no one can come from high school and be an effective football player, regardless of talent. And there has been very very very few athletes that have come to professional athletes from other sports and were successful. The NFL has many athletes (track stars, basketball players, wrestlers, etc.) who thought because they have natural ability they could play the sport. The vast majority have failed!!!!!

If you are referring to high school sports, then your theory applies to just about every sport but golf. A good athlete will excel at just about any sport in a small talent pool. But at the professional level, to say football needs the least amount of technique and skill then you truly don't know the game, regardless of how long you've coached. I've been there, I've seen it!!!

This guy is 100% correct. Who has ever came out of High School and done well in football?

All very good points.

[lostcause]

You are talking high school sports and I don't know what state you are from that what you are saying doesn't always apply, especially in football happy states like Texas, California, and Florida where natural talent is abundant. Unlike any other sport, no one can come from high school and be an effective football player, regardless of talent. And there has been very very very few athletes that have come to professional athletes from other sports and were successful. The NFL has many athletes (track stars, basketball players, wrestlers, etc.) who thought because they have natural ability they could play the sport. The vast majority have failed!!!!!

If you are referring to high school sports, then your theory applies to just about every sport but golf. A good athlete will excel at just about any sport in a small talent pool. But at the professional level, to say football needs the least amount of technique and skill then you truly don't know the game, regardless of how long you've coached. I've been there, I've seen it!!!

im from one of the states where football is king (GA) and the talent pool is extremely deep. alot of the reason athletes cannot come out of HS into the nfl is because they havent had time for their bodies to develop. the difference in HS (18) and nfl (22) bodies is dramatic. it is common for freshmen to come in and put on 20lbs of muscle and add 100lbs to their maxs in one year. their bodies are nowhere near fully developed at 18 and they have only a fraction of the strength and size they will get in the next 2-3 yrs. football requires you to be more physical than technical. so even when their skills reach pro level they have to wait on their bodies to reach pro level, this is not the case in any other sport.

[J-Dogg]

there is no way of ever proving any of this from either side. to compete at the highest level of any sport takes a great deal of talent, training, skill, and genetics. this is my point. hypothetical: if you take a high school kid (17) who is 6ft 185 lbs who has never played any sport, rank in order wich one of these he would be able to compete in the earliest: baseball, football, basketball, mma, golf.

1.football 2. basketball 3. mma 4. baseball 5. golf

yes i have played/coached football my whole life and am an avid fan. ive seen kids with absolutly no experience playing football be able to walk on the field and compete for starting jobs immediately. you dont see that in any of these other sports, thats my point. in football, speed and size trumps technique, in the others technique trumps speed and size.

lol your 1-5 is WAAAAAY (wtf) off.

1. Golf - Probably the least physically dependent sport there is

2. Baseball - Hitting a 100MPH fast ball, does not require a ton of muscle, but great coordination and tons of practice, throwing one 100MPH takes more technique than muscle.

3. Basketball- requires a ridiculous amount of skill. Strength and size helps with posting and rebounding, but it's a very skilled game.

4. Football- a over powering lineman can be good, with just raw strength, but it takes more than just speed and strength to play most positions.


Look at the best players ever in these sports, Tiger Woods, Micheal Jordan, Babe Ruth, Joe Montana.

Any of those guys strike you as genetic freaks?

As far as MMA, the only guy you can really say has been "the best" who has not lost a lot of fights recently would be Fedor, and is the guy we are mostly debating here. Most of your good veteran fighters, are loosing to younger, more athletically gifted fighters. MaCheeta, BJ and Spider are really the MMA guys who are winning off of a skill set and not just athletic ability.

[lostcause]

lol your 1-5 is WAAAAAY (wtf) off.

1. Golf - Probably the least physically dependent sport there is

2. Baseball - Hitting a 100MPH fast ball, does not require a ton of muscle, but great coordination and tons of practice, throwing one 100MPH takes more technique than muscle.

3. Basketball- requires a ridiculous amount of skill. Strength and size helps with posting and rebounding, but it's a very skilled game.

4. Football- a over powering lineman can be good, with just raw strength, but it takes more than just speed and strength to play most positions.


Look at the best players ever in these sports, Tiger Woods, Micheal Jordan, Babe Ruth, Joe Montana.

Any of those guys strike you as genetic freaks?

As far as MMA, the only guy you can really say has been "the best" who has not lost a lot of fights recently would be Fedor, and is the guy we are mostly debating here. Most of your good veteran fighters, are loosing to younger, more athletically gifted fighters. MaCheeta, BJ and Spider are really the MMA guys who are winning off of a skill set and not just athletic ability.

you basically said the same thing that i did. i was ranking based on wich sport took the most technical skill, not athletic ability. sorry, i type so slow i forget the point im trying to convey.