I'm not trying to fight you on it DSM - hardly, I'm just trying to learn more. You never stop learning, right? Trying to explain my point.

Well from my research I've heard that DBol will kick in around days 4-7, agreed? Test En around WK 4 (Though sides can show up sooner). For the Test injections to dramatically lower your natural production - blood tests show that will happen around week 2, when the Test is circulating in your system efficiently.

If I get unbearable sides in the first two weeks, then it would be the Dbol, from my beliefs. And also - say no side effects happened until weeks 2-5, once off the Dbol, if that was the problem started - the sides would subside correct? Also - sides such as gyno are preventable through Adex which I'll be taken.

If you completely disagree please explain, I really am trying to hear your thoughts on the subject more.