LMAO @ the UK

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what dont you agree with in my statement.....so do you think that an individual or group of people should be able to change laws and regs because its in there beliefs or faith...

The thing is nobody is trying to force beliefs on you. That's what the BNP and shitty newspapers want you to believe. It's the politicians making those changes not the immigrants.

laws are laws.......this is a bit off topic but here it is.....in my local shoping centre young people are not allowed to wear there hoods up...and i agree with that but then muslim woman should not be allowed to wear there burkas....am i wrong in thinking that??

Well, it's a bit different. Those women in their burkas fully believe they cannot consummate their religion without wearing them. Are you seriously comparing teenagers' rights to wear their hoods up to that?

Having said that, I'm against religion, religious symbols, ideas and all that crap. But I can't run around forcing christians to take their crosses off and stripping down muslim women.

BTW, how do you like Germany, I should hopefully be there in a year.

It's been a fun ride so far. Where are you going to stay? PM me if you need any help.

I have to say i have never once met a islamic person that has told me that nursey rhymes are offensive, that pigs and dogs are offensive, its always in a news article you hear of these things.

Does that not tell anyone here anything?

That's not true! It's a documented well-known fact that all muslims hate animals and freedom!

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The thing is nobody is trying to force beliefs on you. That's what the BNP and shitty newspapers want you to believe. It's the politicians making those changes not the immigrants.

well i would never want the BNP in power and i dont read newspapers very often...(just for sport)......and your totaly wrong about people trying to force beliefs on you/me.....that is one thing done by every single religion and political party....Well, it's a bit different. Those women in their burkas fully believe they cannot consummate their religion without wearing them. Are you seriously comparing teenagers' rights to wear their hoods up to that?

Yes i am.....the reason behind the ban of hoodys is so that people can see there faces.....wey i cant see whos under that burka....a rule/law is there for everyone regardless of religious beliefs.....

Having said that, I'm against religion, religious symbols, ideas and all that crap. But I can't run around forcing christians to take their crosses off and stripping down muslim women.

Im the opposite...im not against religious symbols...im against them breaking laws/rules.... (a bit off topic again but here we go....when on holiday in Spain and Greece you are not allowed to take your T-shirt off at night...doesnt matter about anything else what you believe in etc etc....its not allowed!!) and if thats what they want then who am i to argue?




That's not true! It's a documented well-known fact that all muslims hate animals and freedom!

And all Animals deserve to be hated because they do not believe in wiping there own arses

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a rule/law is there for everyone regardless of religious beliefs

That's true, but it shouldn't interfere with their beliefs either. Wearing a cross around your neck isn't required of you for you to be a Christian. You can take off your cross and still be one. A bukra is a bit different. This woman feels she can't be a Muslim without her burka, it's against her religion (even though some Muslims might disagree) not to wear one. So when you tell her, take off your burka or you don't get in..it's really like saying stop being a Muslim or you can't shop here. It's the equivalent of a Christian having to sign a paper that denies Jesus Christ is his savior.

Logically speaking you're right. Everyone should fall under the same set of laws regardless of their beliefs. Unfortunately, that's not the world we live in. Injustice is happening everywhere because of religion. It intrigues me; however, how people only look at the Muslim side of injustice. Maybe because it's the most vocal one? I don't know. All I know is that, while a woman in burka is shopping illegally in your local mall, thousands of Africans are dying daily of HIV and AIDS because the pope keeps denying them shipments of condoms. How's that for forcing your beliefs on someone? but no, the pope is not brown and muslim...no reason to get angry.

You can't really reason with religious beliefs, because they're not really reasonable. That's why we have to make sacrifices all the time to please people who believe in fairy tales. She believes she needs to wear a burka to please Allah, he believes that a "cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father that can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree" told him that abstinence is the only way to stop the spread of HIV.

It's us atheists who should be complaining really. We live in a religious world; that's lots of BS to put up with to keep others happy.