U-opiod antagonists to prevent HPTA suppression/shutdown

[marcus300]

Yes THE ONLY chemical in my body, aside from Lisinopril (Blood Pressure Medication which has no adverse effects on HPTA)

According the DOC he sees this a lot in Methadone treated patients, so I am not the only one, but it would explain A LOT. When You look at people who have prescribed Methadone on a DAILY Basis. Not a recreational user but someone who doses everyday.. they lose all muscle Mass, they grow man boobs, they have a voice change to a higher pitch, they stop having sex (either because Natty Test is LOW or because the self esteem is so low because of the FAT GAIN) Whatever the reason, METHADONE is great for getting people off of their addiction to PAIN KILLERS.. especially those people that are addicted to them after A BAD MOTORCYCLE CRASH, BUT methadone is horrible for any MALE trying to perform in area that makes a man, a man.

Now, I hadn't cycled in about 2 years and upon cessation of the last cycle I did have BW done after my PCT and everything was fine.. in FACT my TOTAL TEST was at 777 I believe, I remembered because well.. 7 IS my Fave number and all 7's meant good luck !!

So inherently the Methadone, shut me down. Crazy huh?



When referring to the naloxone it is one of the ACTIVE ingredients in SUBOXONE. A treatment that I also went through before the Methadone program. If it hadn't have been for the GOD Awful taste of the drug, I probably would have stuck with it. Less side effects. And GET THIS !! During my 6 month run with this program I have to state, I FELT LIKE I WAS ON A TESTOSTERONE CYCLE... Much so as far as LIBIDO is considered.. I was a raging HORN DOG !!!

So as far as the effects of the U-OPIOD ANTAGONIST on the HPTA, I really do not find the whole idea too far fetched at all... IN FACT I find it quite reasonable and probable...

I am speaking to some now who use's it all the time for the effcets on the HPTA and he as bloodwork to back it up with, looks like a very interesting product and could be very usefull to bodybuilders.

Interesting you felt like you was on a test cycle,

[The Deuce]

Interesting you felt like you was on a test cycle,

Only... ONLY... The Libido Increase and the ENERGY that is usually associated with a TEST CYCLE..

I felt GREAT.. I was CLEAN.. because of the goddamned TASTE of the Medication I had to switch from that to Methadone to continue my TREATMENT from Drug Addiction.. It's a lifelong illness and I am very happy to be clean, I have done a complete turn around in my life.. NOT ONLY THAT but because of all of this I was able to focus on switching gears to be able to follow my dream to become a BODYBUILDER. It's GREAT!! I have never been happier... the downfall.. apparently METHADONE shuts down my natty test..

SO NOW.. I don't know how this is going to effect my body but I need to inject TEST every week. I haven't gone a week since February 14th,2009 without injecting at least 200mgs EW.. I mean.. how is that going to effect me in the long run?? I have cycled twice... since then, 700mgs per week... 1st one I ran 14 weeks... Now this one I am 6 weeks deep... and when I end this one.. at 12 weeks I will be returning to my TRT dose of 200mgs EW. So that's 36 weeks NON-STOP so far on Test... I mean it must be safe right??

Obviously when I started I was an OVERWEIGHT BASTARD... I weighed 260lbs. 36% BF when I injected my First Cypionate Dose.. when I started my First Cycle.. I was 235lbs. 26%... Half way through I was down to 215lbs. 21% When I finished the cycle.. I was at 18% Bf and 220lbs. So... The start of this cycle I was 225lbs. 15.5% and Now I am halfway through this cycle and at 14.5% Bf and 227lbs.

So I mean... it was a bad thing to USE AAS at a HIGH BF% but I Dieted appropriately and did what was necessary to make the best of it all.. YES I KNOW I AM

But I am going over the basis... of How I was able to take a Methadone Opiate Addiction program and have a total shutdown of Natty Test and be supplemented with TRT and use that to transform my Body to what it is now... But I am thinking LONG TERM... I probably should have started my own thread on this.. and I probably will since this is a total discussion on U-OPIOID ANTAGONIST... I should be deleting and copy and pasting into my own thread.. but hey too late... I'M .

What do you think?? I don't plan to stop cycling.. it's what I do now.. and I am on TRT so obviously on the cessation of my CYCLES I will be returning to my TRT... I know there are no long term studies, but unlike 90 percent of everyone on here.. I can't PCT and regain my Natty levels.. I have to use synthetic Test. If I cycle.. even MODERATELY for let's say the next 20 some odd years.. that's 1000 more WEEKS of injecting TEST Non-stop... Is this a safe practice as long as my BW comes back stylin' each and every time??

If need be, and it would be more beneficial.. I am obviously not going to be part of the Methadone program forever... I am actually beginning the process of medically weening down... but if this Naxolone is actually a good thing and does what this thread is discussing.. would it be in my better interest to try switching back to the Suboxone treatment while I go through my drug counseling and abandon the methadone which is inhibiting my HPTA...

IT'S A WHOLE LOT TO DIGEST, I have a lot to think of.. and HOW to be successful in the BB-ing world but I also don't want to endanger my health in any way shape or form... YES I KNOW THE RISKS *Possible* OF USING AAS. That's not what I am speaking of... I am talking about the possibility of the next 1000+ weeks injecting a synthetic form of Testosterone... WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK???

Or maybe MY ANXIETY is just getting the better of me right now and I am reading WAAAAAY to into this... lol... GOD I AM HYPOCHONDRIAC !!!

Oh and sorry about being kinda