cleaning skin w/ alc before inj is no long recommended?

[Nooomoto]

I'll stick with alcohol. That whole theory about pushing bacteria around sounds retarded as fk.

EDIT: I did some searching on Google and found that it is not recommended for DIABETICS to wipe their own skin with alcohol before injecting insulin as overuse of alcohol can dry the skin out and cause further problems for DIABETICS. I don't think this applies to us. I could be wrong but I didn't find anything referencing this method of pre-injection protocol pertaining to anyone other than DIABETICS.

[Immortal Soldier]

U don't need to swab your skin, I have done injections without swabbing.

The chance of infection is like .01% so if you do get infected its not cause there was bacteria on the skin, but rather bacteria on the needle that was pushed past the derma layer of skin made to keep it out.

[gixxerboy1]

I'll stick with alcohol. That whole theory about pushing bacteria around sounds retarded as fk.

EDIT: I did some searching on Google and found that it is not recommended for DIABETICS to wipe their own skin with alcohol before injecting insulin as overuse of alcohol can dry the skin out and cause further problems for DIABETICS. I don't think this applies to us. I could be wrong but I didn't find anything referencing this method of pre-injection protocol pertaining to anyone other than DIABETICS.

I'm a diabetic and i never swab. I have done probably done 100,000 shot and never had a problem.

i think some people get crazy about this stuff. But how many of you have cut yourself or got a scratch and had it turn into an infection? I've been working on my car and got a cut on dirty oily hands and don't run in the house and sanitize and bandage it up. We do have an immune system.

[MuscleScience]

I'm a diabetic and i never swab. I have done probably done 100,000 shot and never had a problem.

i think some people get crazy about this stuff. But how many of you have cut yourself or got a scratch and had it turn into an infection? I've been working on my car and got a cut on dirty oily hands and don't run in the house and sanitize and bandage it up. We do have an immune system.

There is a fairly big difference in treating and infection that is superficial in nature vs treating an abscess deep in a muscle belly.

[gixxerboy1]

There is a fairly big difference in treating and infection that is superficial in nature vs treating an abscess deep in a muscle belly.

i understand that. But arent the deep infections more likely from something in the injection then from bacteria that was on the surface?

[MuscleScience]

i understand that. But arent the deep infections more likely from something in the injection then from bacteria that was on the surface?

I dont know, probably. I think that is how most staph infections occur anyway....

[gixxerboy1]

I dont know, probably. I think that is how most staph infections occur anyway....

come on your the science guy. You are supposed to have the answers

[MuscleScience]

come on your the science guy. You are supposed to have the answers

Because I am a science guy when I dont know, I say I dont know...

[thegodfather]

I dont know, probably. I think that is how most staph infections occur anyway....

There should be enough BA/BB in the solution that it negates any contamination in the solution, as well as the heating that is involved in making gear. I would say its more likely that staph from the surface of the skin gets pushed deep into the muscle. It only makes sense that the risk of a systemic infection is greatly enhanced when the bacteria is deep within the muscle tissue, and far beyond the protecting layers of the skin.

[operationgetbig]

ive been juicing on and off for about 5 years and only used alcohol swabs for my first cycle. ever since then i didnt and have never had a problem once. maybe im the living experiment that it doesnt matter. i feel that as long as a sterile syringe and needle is used every time and that a clean seperate needle is used for drawing the compound then youre good to go.

as long as im relatively clean and not super sweaty or rolling around in the mud then i go ahead and do my injection.