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    I use fixed slin pins for my HGH and never have any HGH left in the vial. I if I'm drawing out .5ml I put 1ml of air into the vial. I put 1ml of BW into the HGH vial so I draw .5ml twice. On the second time the is positive pressure in the vial. As I draw the HGH is slowly draw the pin out at the same time until HGH stops drawing. That means my pin is in the rubber and will not draw any more fluid. Then I slowly push the pin back into the vial until the fluid flows again. The positive pressure pushes the rest of the HGH out and i have nothing left in the vial. Works for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScotchGuard View Post
    I use fixed slin pins for my HGH and never have any HGH left in the vial. I if I'm drawing out .5ml I put 1ml of air into the vial. I put 1ml of BW into the HGH vial so I draw .5ml twice. On the second time the is positive pressure in the vial. As I draw the HGH is slowly draw the pin out at the same time until HGH stops drawing. That means my pin is in the rubber and will not draw any more fluid. Then I slowly push the pin back into the vial until the fluid flows again. The positive pressure pushes the rest of the HGH out and i have nothing left in the vial. Works for me.
    Do you put 1ml of bw into the vial first ?

    will this amount of pressure do anything to the gh ?

    can you write me a step by step so i know i do it right please ?

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    Assumption 10iu/vial.

    Due to the crystallization process the HGH vial is normally in a vacuum.

    1. Insert just the pin (the syringe is not attached to the pin) and let the vacuum filled vial normalize its pressure. The HGH "puck" might shift because of the rush of incoming air, don't be alarmed nothing has been damaged.
    2. Load 1 ml of Bac Water in a 3ml (size doesn't matter 5ml, 10ml, etc) syringe.
    3. Draw the syringe back to 2ml so there is 1ml of Bac Water and 1ml of air in the syringe.
    4. Insert the syringe pin into the rubber stopper on the HGH vial and point the pin to the side of the vial. Push the pin in until it touches or is near the side of the vial. You don't want the Bac Water to shoot directly into the HGH. You want the water to slide down the side of the vial. Push the total contents of the syringe (1ml water + 1ml air) into the vial. Now you have 10iu/ml concentration HGH. Also, there is positive pressure in the HGH vial.
    5. Let the vial sit until all the HGH has dissolved in the Bac Water. You can roll the vial on it's axis gently but DO NOT shake the vial.
    6. Pull the insulin syringe (this is not the pin you just used to fill the vial with Bac Water) plunger back to 1ml (if you're loading .5ml in the syringe).
    7. Insert the insulin pin into the vial right in the middle of the rubber stopper. The sides are thicker and the pin has to push through more rubber. It will dull the pin and could be uncomfortable when pinning. Push the 1ml of air into the vial. Now the vial (normally 3ml, will have a 2:1 pressure ratio) and will push the HGH out.
    8. Slowly draw out .5ml (5iu) of HGH. I normally go past the 5 mark to say, 6 and push it back into the vial slowly to remove the air bubbles.
    9. Prepare the second insulin pin with 1ml of air and push the 1ml of air into the vial.
    10. Slowly draw the plunder back and begin to fill the syringe. At the same time slowly pull the pin out of the vial. When the HGH stops flowing into the syringe that means that the pin is now embedded in the rubber. You have pulled the pin out too much, this is good. Now slowly push the pin back into the rubber stopper until the HGH flows into the syringe again. Now the pin has penetrated into the vial a minute amount. Continue to pull on the plunger until the vial is empty.

    This method will allow you to get the most HGH out of your vial. Good luck.
    Last edited by ScotchGuard; 09-21-2009 at 07:19 PM.

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