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    This article has been bouncing around forums since early 2007, I agree with Swifto, but then I always do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    This article has been bouncing around forums since early 2007, I agree with Swifto, but then I always do.
    Nice seeing you around, Big man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xnotoriousx View Post
    Hmmm, so you guys think clomid/nolva are a bad pct option for a test e dbol cycle?
    Nope.

    There the best option we currently have in bringing endogenous T back up following a steroid cycle. No OTC will bring endogenous T up as much as Tamox, Clomid or Tore. Nothing.

    There safe to use for PCT, although they are not perfect.

    If your worried about safety? There are hundreds, if not thousands of studies confirming the safety of SERMs and more done on their efficiency at raising T.

    If your still worried about sides/safety, use Toremifene. Its a 2nd Gen SERM with less of the geno-toxicity, not as carcinogenic and is also less occular toxic. Its also very good at raising T.

    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    Swifto, what did you think of the conclusion of the article,

    where he suggests using IGF-1 in pct?

    (he also suggests, IGF-1 LR3, but I would never use an expensive GDA just for pct.)
    I dont advise using IGF-1 LR3. I havent ever used it and wont because its nothing more than an over priced GDA, PCT or not. Proper IGF-1, well thats another story, but its near impossible to get now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    This article has been bouncing around forums since early 2007, I agree with Swifto, but then I always do.
    Thanks Big. Its nice to see you around my friend. I hope your well.

    This article has been around for a little while. Its nothing more than scare tactics though.

    Eric has something called the Testosterone Recovery Stack (TRS), which I have used following my Hdrol/Epi cycle. It worked well but will in no way replace the use of SERMs in any PCT I do in the future. Its a good addition, but not a replacement.

    Not to mention it states using Tamox and 19-Nor's shouldn't be done because of PgR, when in fact, its fine. Using Tamoxifen on Deca or Tren is acceptable at reducing/preventing gyno.

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    wheeeeew im glad you posted that i was gettin a little worried for a bit. Lotsof bodybuilders have used these serms for years and its not like they are all dropping dead of ball cancer or liver cysts. People who try to scare people into buying their product have no morals and can eat a dick.

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