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    i think its through androgenic steroids mainly

    just becuase their function increases aggression and male characteristics

    IMO, and im sure alot of people will agree with this, the feeling that steroids give u, (ill call it invincibility) will effect ur sleep

    i mean i rock up to the gym atm, and i just wanna rip the dumbell in half lol

    anyways its seems the trend anyways, high androgenic steroids like trenbelone have been shwon to cause sleeping issues

    ur using test, which is also fairly androgenic
    also i think the huge sex drive from test effects ur sleep, i mean i personally cant get to sleep atm without rooting my gf twice, and then having 2 pulls after that (use to be 4 roots but misses wasnt getting enough sleep so shes limited me to 2 on weekdays

    weekends i get 4 , sleep great aswell

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    Testosterone doesnt help me sleep better or worse

    Quote Originally Posted by ranging1 View Post
    i think its through androgenic steroids mainly

    just becuase their function increases aggression and male characteristics

    IMO, and im sure alot of people will agree with this, the feeling that steroids give u, (ill call it invincibility) will effect ur sleep

    i mean i rock up to the gym atm, and i just wanna rip the dumbell in half lol

    anyways its seems the trend anyways, high androgenic steroids like trenbelone have been shwon to cause sleeping issues

    ur using test, which is also fairly androgenic
    also i think the huge sex drive from test effects ur sleep, i mean i personally cant get to sleep atm without rooting my gf twice, and then having 2 pulls after that (use to be 4 roots but misses wasnt getting enough sleep so shes limited me to 2 on weekdays

    weekends i get 4 , sleep great aswell
    Guys

    Im 53, and have had problems both getting asleep and staying asleep for over 25 yrs. I was really hoping that 500ml per week of sustanon and 30mg dbol per day would not only make me need less sleep, but if I got less sleep I would still be motivated to tear the iron apart at the gym.This is the most gear Ive ever done in my life. I must confess that after 13 weeks of my cycle, I dont have any more desire to get to the gym, I sleep way too much(over 12 hrs daily) and I still need a prescription Ambien pill every night to get to sleep, tiny increase in sex drive. And yes, Ive been having some very weird dreams that make me wake up depressed. (That could be the melatonin Ive tried for insomnia at 6-12mg. nightly so thats gone!) I really thought that with this much gear in me I wopuld feel so much better, so much more alive, but althopugh Ive gained 15 pounds, I dont feel any more energy nor have any more endurance. Sustanon250 twice a week is what Im doing. I just did my last 750 all at once today and if theres no big difference, Im done with it once and for all. Why risk my health at my age if I dont even feel better. And Im trying DHEA, Rhodiola extract,Tribulus,Dim and Adrenal support supplements. No help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silat50 View Post
    Guys

    Im 53, and have had problems both getting asleep and staying asleep for over 25 yrs. I was really hoping that 500ml per week of sustanon and 30mg dbol per day would not only make me need less sleep, but if I got less sleep I would still be motivated to tear the iron apart at the gym.This is the most gear Ive ever done in my life. I must confess that after 13 weeks of my cycle, I dont have any more desire to get to the gym, I sleep way too much(over 12 hrs daily) and I still need a prescription Ambien pill every night to get to sleep, tiny increase in sex drive. And yes, Ive been having some very weird dreams that make me wake up depressed. (That could be the melatonin Ive tried for insomnia at 6-12mg. nightly so thats gone!) I really thought that with this much gear in me I wopuld feel so much better, so much more alive, but althopugh Ive gained 15 pounds, I dont feel any more energy nor have any more endurance. Sustanon250 twice a week is what Im doing. I just did my last 750 all at once today and if theres no big difference, Im done with it once and for all. Why risk my health at my age if I dont even feel better. And Im trying DHEA, Rhodiola extract,Tribulus,Dim and Adrenal support supplements. No help.
    First of all, ditch the tribulus, it's useless. What are you taking for estrogen control? And have you ever had your sleep observed? My guess would be that you might be suffering from sleep apnea. Since you just stopped your sustanon injections, you're going to be feeling low-test symptoms which might add to the sleep problem you're experiencing.

    What do you have lined up for your PCT?

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    good guess king, I do have sleep apnea. Unfortunately the cpap machine does nothing and there is no further help they can give me after diagnosing it 13 yrs ago, long before I went back to gear..Andf my last sleep study showed nothing bas they always do the sleep study when im not tired. My pct? Im on 25mg prov. starting last week as i gave my last injec. 2 days ago and i have enough for 4 weeks, I never got any sides ever,and back in my old days we just cut the gear down slowly for a month at the end of our cycle as we didnt have pct's then. All this crap I hear about nov. rebound and stuff....hey I would go ape sh&t if after never getting sides, i felt sides from the crap that prevent the sides!!!! ha!(they wont let me use any medication words)

    But why arent I feeling good from what im on now??? this last 750mg is gonna peak in 2 weeks from now. I actually feel a bit more muscular after 3 days on 750 is the dose of my next cycle minus the dbol. But to me, any testosterone addition should make me feel more vigorous, epsecially in bed. It doesnt at all. It just increases my desire in my head! Thats messed up. lol

    So prov and i guess i might have 1 or 2 more 250's i could scrounge up for my post cycle pct along with the prov but im old school. if it aint broke, dont fix it. Now if i ever go over 1000mg, that might be different. I guess im unlucky in the muscle making dept...but very lucky in what my body does or doesnt do with estrogen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silat50 View Post
    Guys

    Im 53, and have had problems both getting asleep and staying asleep for over 25 yrs. I was really hoping that 500ml per week of sustanon and 30mg dbol per day would not only make me need less sleep, but if I got less sleep I would still be motivated to tear the iron apart at the gym.This is the most gear Ive ever done in my life. I must confess that after 13 weeks of my cycle, I dont have any more desire to get to the gym, I sleep way too much(over 12 hrs daily) and I still need a prescription Ambien pill every night to get to sleep, tiny increase in sex drive. And yes, Ive been having some very weird dreams that make me wake up depressed. (That could be the melatonin Ive tried for insomnia at 6-12mg. nightly so thats gone!) I really thought that with this much gear in me I wopuld feel so much better, so much more alive, but althopugh Ive gained 15 pounds, I dont feel any more energy nor have any more endurance. Sustanon250 twice a week is what Im doing. I just did my last 750 all at once today and if theres no big difference, Im done with it once and for all. Why risk my health at my age if I dont even feel better. And Im trying DHEA, Rhodiola extract,Tribulus,Dim and Adrenal support supplements. No help.
    25 years of sleeping problem is a lot, natural products probably wont cut it. HGH makes you sleep like a baby.. But it's expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ranging1 View Post
    i think its through androgenic steroids mainly

    just becuase their function increases aggression and male characteristics

    IMO, and im sure alot of people will agree with this, the feeling that steroids give u, (ill call it invincibility) will effect ur sleep

    i mean i rock up to the gym atm, and i just wanna rip the dumbell in half lol

    anyways its seems the trend anyways, high androgenic steroids like trenbelone have been shwon to cause sleeping issues

    ur using test, which is also fairly androgenic
    also i think the huge sex drive from test effects ur sleep, i mean i personally cant get to sleep atm without rooting my gf twice, and then having 2 pulls after that (use to be 4 roots but misses wasnt getting enough sleep so shes limited me to 2 on weekdays

    weekends i get 4 , sleep great aswell
    LoL - limited to 2 on weekdays, and 4 on weekends. That's funny stuff brother!!

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    QUESTION: IS ANYONE ON SUSTANON OR SIMILAR TESTOSTERONE AT 750 WEEKLY OR MORE AND USING NO PCT AND DOING OK JUST BY CUTTING DOWN SLOWLY? Im just not going to risk gyno from a rebound of either a serm or an AI. (Im just flabbergasted with all the extra red blood cells I must have niow, how i cant be MR. Stamina and endurance, I have no clue. I can even see my blood is darker and thicker when I pin myself. Im amazed that my first cycle in 30 yrs and 500ml weekly is not enough. I need 750. Next cycle I guess. I hope I get some good gains from these last 2 weeks. -) Dont make me start taking 100mg dbol a day! lol

    Actually I wanted to transition from just bodybuilding to getting back into martial arts,but I took 2 classes from 2 different schools and almost puked both times due to running out of air. I really thought Id go back to feeling 34 again instead of 54.

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