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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31 View Post
    An oversimplification to be sure...do some research as to why blacks were imported from Africa and the justification for such. Let me give you a hint (the use of the bible to justify African inferiority, and the use of scientific theory to justify African inferiority). While Scots, Poles, and Irish were believed to be inferior to other Europeans, there were no definative studies done to attempt to prove these theories only the existence of preconceived notions. Europeans made up false science to prove the inferiority of Africans to justify the practice of African slavery. Besides that whites always had a way out of bondage (in theory). Most Scots and Irish were brought over the US as endentured servitude to pay off their debt of travel. So they could eventually gain their freedom and most did. But Africans on the other hand were property, never to see freedom. While some were able to buy their freedom, most weren't not allowed and legislation provided such. No time in history were whites not counted as humans. At first blacks were considered property with and could be treated as such. It wasn't until the slave population in the south exploded that white southeners as a political motive to count them as people, but they weren't counted as a whole man. A male slave was counted only as 3/5 a person and slave women were still simply property.

    There's a quick history in a nutshell. We can do into much deeper detail if you like. But equating indentured servitude to the Sub-Saharan African slave trade is absurd.
    Black inferiority is still being studied BgMc, although I'm not sure why. But on average, African-Americans 15 points lower than European-Americans on IQ tests depending on age.

    http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/node/7669

    "Around the world, the average IQ for East Asians centers around 106; for Whites, about 100; and for Blacks about 85 in the U.S. and 70 in sub-Saharan Africa."

    Forest Gump was only 3 point bellow 70 if you remember the movie.

    "Black children sit, crawl, walk, and put on their clothes earlier than Whites or East Asians."
    intesting that black people start off ahead of the curve then other races pass them by.

    "Black children with lighter skin, for example, average higher IQ scores. "
    Last edited by Kratos; 09-23-2009 at 02:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post
    Black inferiority is still being studied BgMc, although I'm not sure why. But on average, African-Americans 15 points lower than European-Americans on IQ tests depending on age.
    This information has been confirmed many times over, and made relatively mainstream knowledge by the Bell Curve.

    One thing to bear in mind is that by pointing these facts out nobody is claiming superiority/inferiority. People, and more importantly, groups of people are not equal. We have equal rights, equal opportunity, but never equal ability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post
    Black inferiority is still being studied BgMc, although I'm not sure why. But on average, African-Americans 15 points lower than European-Americans on IQ tests depending on age.

    http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/node/7669

    "Around the world, the average IQ for East Asians centers around 106; for Whites, about 100; and for Blacks about 85 in the U.S. and 70 in sub-Saharan Africa."

    Forest Gump was only 3 point bellow 70 if you remember the movie.

    "Black children sit, crawl, walk, and put on their clothes earlier than Whites or East Asians."
    intesting that black people start off ahead of the curve then other races pass them by.

    "Black children with lighter skin, for example, average higher IQ scores. "
    Toche', Touche' Kratos. I will attempt to find a rebuttal, if I can't you know I'm big enough to concede a point, LOL!!!. But the last sentence offers a very interesting point considering the vast majority of African Americans are mixed in their leniage. Other's like myself, athough not light skinned are mixed (both parents are half white).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post
    Black inferiority is still being studied BgMc, although I'm not sure why. But on average, African-Americans 15 points lower than European-Americans on IQ tests depending on age.

    http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/node/7669

    "Around the world, the average IQ for East Asians centers around 106; for Whites, about 100; and for Blacks about 85 in the U.S. and 70 in sub-Saharan Africa."

    Forest Gump was only 3 point bellow 70 if you remember the movie.

    "Black children sit, crawl, walk, and put on their clothes earlier than Whites or East Asians."
    intesting that black people start off ahead of the curve then other races pass them by.

    "Black children with lighter skin, for example, average higher IQ scores. "
    I don't really subscribe to this type of philosophy of measurement. Most systems that test are not universally based.

    How do you measure intelligence? That might sound silly, but it is a really deep question. I have known many who are book smart or genius' according to the book, but they can't get their life together for anything. House a wreck, job a wreck, can't make good decisions.

    I have taken IQ tests before and I would categorize it more as an analytical type of measurement. Is that indicative of a person's intelligence? Well it can be in some cases and in other cases it doesn't measure anything.

    I think if you put a person in a foreign culture and measured them with other kind of tests they might not score as high. I just don't really subscribe to measuring humans with testing. How about a measurement of happiness and success. How about measuring the size of their family or the good that a person brings into the life of others. What really is smart or intelligent? Very tough question.

    As far as the posts on stereotypes... well they are out there and they won't ever go away. sometimes I find humor and sometimes I get offended, but I don't get caught up in it or let it control my outlook toward others..

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockinred View Post
    I don't really subscribe to this type of philosophy of measurement. Most systems that test are not universally based.

    How do you measure intelligence? That might sound silly, but it is a really deep question. I have known many who are book smart or genius' according to the book, but they can't get their life together for anything. House a wreck, job a wreck, can't make good decisions.

    I have taken IQ tests before and I would categorize it more as an analytical type of measurement. Is that indicative of a person's intelligence? Well it can be in some cases and in other cases it doesn't measure anything.

    I think if you put a person in a foreign culture and measured them with other kind of tests they might not score as high. I just don't really subscribe to measuring humans with testing. How about a measurement of happiness and success. How about measuring the size of their family or the good that a person brings into the life of others. What really is smart or intelligent? Very tough question.

    As far as the posts on stereotypes... well they are out there and they won't ever go away. sometimes I find humor and sometimes I get offended, but I don't get caught up in it or let it control my outlook toward others..
    As usual Rockinred...GREAT POST!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31 View Post
    As usual Rockinred...GREAT POST!!!!!
    Cause any test that shows results you don't like must be bias or flawed. The tests aren't perfect but why do Asians out perform whites? Asia is a much different culture. Why do black people in America score lower, the culture is very similar.

    If it makes you feel better, blacks have a much higher testosterone level from the ages of 7-24 and are more sensitive to androgens. It means they can get jacked easier, and test is helpful in developing fighting ability.
    Last edited by Kratos; 09-24-2009 at 10:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post
    Black inferiority is still being studied BgMc, although I'm not sure why. But on average, African-Americans 15 points lower than European-Americans on IQ tests depending on age.

    http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/node/7669

    "Around the world, the average IQ for East Asians centers around 106; for Whites, about 100; and for Blacks about 85 in the U.S. and 70 in sub-Saharan Africa."

    Forest Gump was only 3 point bellow 70 if you remember the movie.

    "Black children sit, crawl, walk, and put on their clothes earlier than Whites or East Asians."
    intesting that black people start off ahead of the curve then other races pass them by.

    "Black children with lighter skin, for example, average higher IQ scores. "
    Hey Kratos, could you pass an IQ test given to you by Sub Saharan Africans based on the knowledge of their world? What do you think you'd score on that. I know, even though my IQ is quite high, I'd probably score well below 70 in their world. Does that make me less intelligent or just merely ignorant of their world?

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