About It being more difficult try boxing pac man or a good pro and let me know it goes being boxing so easy
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About It being more difficult try boxing pac man or a good pro and let me know it goes being boxing so easy
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Originally Posted by elpropiotorvic
Try to strike with fedor or try to grapple with Fedor or simply just try to fight Fedor, then let me know.
The best boxer in the world wouldnt last a round with a soso MMA fighter in a FIGHT(without ground experience, with some ground experience, good wrestling or TD defense could de pretty well)
Last edited by roid_rage; 09-28-2009 at 04:59 PM.
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I agree a boxer going into MMA should definitely learn TD defence and the ground game but your statement is very exaggerated.
Chuck Liddell (as well as many other fighters) KO’d loads of guys before they even got close enough to attempt a take down and his standup isn't close to that of a pro boxer.
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chuck was a pretty solid wrestler.
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But a very crappy striker who won a title using his very crappy striking.
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Man I respectfully beg to differ... Look at Royce gracie vs sakuraba I think it was 1996 ... What a humilliation ... Look at mirko ( and he is not even that good) he has beaten lots of people just kickboxing them ... Look at andreson ... Without his boxing he would be shit...
Man I love BJJ and respect it a lot and wrestling as well... But man even me I have taken HEAvY weights championS of college wrestling ... Just boxing them... In the end the best man would win but I assure u a good boxer will not let u near gettin close to even getting a hold of them.... Even gsp ( which I believe has the most effective takedown in mma) I think he would get pretty much beaten... Man I don't know if you have actually seen world class boxers and see what they can do... Believe me I'm a fan of mma I don't even watch boxing ... I'm an amateur fighter of mma I love the sport .... But boxers dance u around the ring and beat u up... About the fedor... I'm the biggest fedor fan.. He is IN my wallpaper ... But he can NOT box a world class boxer(especially him being on the sport because of money) otherwise he would be doing it .. Like I said I have the utmost respect for the sport and I enjoy mma more because of more variables, but that's also why boxing is hlvery hard aswell... Cause u can only espect somuch u have to work ir ass off trying to figure the way to get in...
As for china they don't allow coverage to the events ... I think in 1990 was the first timethey allowed coverage there but not of all the evnts...
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say what man? I totally respect your way to put things man, but you are sooo downplaying MMA... about your examples...
Royce vs Sakuraba... Sakuraba is a catchwretstler, when I talk about grappling, I talk about everysingle grapple form, not only bjj... and that wasnt a humillation, that was a 30 minutes fight, how can that be a humillation?
Mirko had one if not the best TD defense at that time, it was nearly impossible to take him down, though Minotauro beat subed him. And Fedor (whos not even a k-1 fighter) stood toe to toe with him, and acutally put a good beating on him too. Not to mention Mirko isnt a boxer, is a K-1 fighter and his most lethal weapon were his LHK, I dont see mayweather throwing High kicks...
Andersons is no boxer, AS was the Brazilian MT champ, and also a bjj black belt, the guy subed Dan Henderson, and Lutter (from strikes though, whos a great bjj fighter, Not very good examples. Andersons most devastating weapons are his elbows and knees, I dont see mayweather throwing elbows or knees anywhere....
Its been prove is that a good grappler will most of the times prevale against a good striker with no ground game, with no TD defense. In order to get a TD defense you MUST be a good wrestler, therefore, a good grappler, Cain Velazquez couldnt stand 1 minute in front of Kongo, he almost got KTFO 3 times, still managed to wear him out and beat the living crap of ouf him... And Im pretty sure Kongo can stand and trade with the elite of boxing (of course in a K-1 match, in a boxing match he will get kill) Boxers are great at what they do... boxing, but even in MMA technicall boxing doesnt always translate well, its a world of difference to strike with 4oz than with 14oz, you cant defend the same way, therefore lots of strikes like those that Fedor throws are very effective in MMA and wouldn't be in Boxing. Hell Freddy roach before the Fedor fight said that Fedor's boxing pretty much sucked, after the fight, he realize that MMA AINT BOXING... thus the same rules dont apply.
Like I said in other post, an elite boxer will kill any MMA fighter in a boxing match (unless this MMA fighter is already an elite boxer, and we have a couple of great boxers in MMA as well) that includes Fedor, but Fedor will totally destroy, abuse, embarras any boxer who dears to stand in front of him in a MMA match.
By the way, I did not say try to box Fedor, I said try to STRIKE with Fedor, because I was talking about MMA, making the point that while trying to box Pac will be painfull, fighting Fedor you have to STRIKE AND GRAPPLE, meaning you have to worry more than about just getting hit....
Last edited by roid_rage; 09-29-2009 at 09:41 AM.
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LOL, you really dont know MMA nor do you know fighting.
See. Mercer/Sylvia for an MMA example.
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but before I see that, why dont you see kimbo/mercer first... lol....
you may wanna see also genki sudo/butterbean LOL...
yeah boxing>MMA LMFAO....
Last edited by roid_rage; 09-29-2009 at 02:47 PM.
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^^^^good post...both of them
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