Thoughts on Proviron or I-dex, need advise on next cycle

[DOM6]

Im thinking of running

Prop 1-4 300mg wk
Test e 1-12 500mg wk
EQ 1-12 750mg wk
i have ran test e a couple months back and felt shut down on wk 3-4
i didnt know why, i figured estrogen cause i got major bloating,

Now would it be better to run proviron 25mg a day wk1-12 or i-dex?
Was also thinking of doing a 2wk on then off of clen thru out but dont know yet.

Stats-
176 now,5'9" 13bf% 30yr old,
diet needs a bit of work,
when i was 24 i weighed 196 12%bf but stopped working out then just started again 8 months ago.
Thanks guys


Dom6-

[DOM6]

bump

[lovbyts]

DAMN thanks for reminding me, I am supposed to be running Provin with this cycle and forgot the last few days. Damn ADD

I have not felt anything special from the Provin personally but it's only been a couple weeks.

[pepous]

Proviron is really weak in my eyes ...

I took 100mg daily And didnt feel anything.

[idoitbecauseiloveit]

I find proviron absolutely magic for keeping the bloating and gyno away but I haven't tried arrimidex. Many on this site say that it reduces the gains though.

25mg twice per day has been fine for me.

[DOM6]

I find proviron absolutely magic for keeping the bloating and gyno away but I haven't tried arrimidex. Many on this site say that it reduces the gains though.

25mg twice per day has been fine for me.

^^
Well i been reading that it make runnning test better
and i know i need i-dex so i wanted to know if Proviron would work just the same if not better than i-dex

[Swifto]

Proviron is really weak in my eyes ...

I took 100mg daily And didnt feel anything.

I agree.

I actuslly got a small case of gyno because it didnt do the job.

Arimidex at 0.5mg/EOD or ED IMHO.

[pepous]

I agree.

I actuslly got a small case of gyno because it didnt do the job.

Arimidex at 0.5mg/EOD or ED IMHO.

I know you are vet

but I suggest to give only 0,25/EOD or/+ 20mg/nolvadex/day becouse of I feel really crappy when I have low estradiol... Personaly I am realy very sensitive to arimidex.

But I dont know if I am more sensitive than other so my advice is not relevant

[Swifto]

I know you are vet

but I suggest to give only 0,25/EOD or/+ 20mg/nolvadex/day becouse of I feel really crappy when I have low estradiol... Personaly I am realy very sensitive to arimidex.

But I dont know if I am more sensitive than other so my advice is not relevant

Your advice is relevant. Everyone's is.

Thats what were hear for, to discuss and debate.

The smallest possible effective dose is what should be used. And if thats 0.25mg/EOD, so be it.

[pepous]

One question to you

Do you know why I feel better on about 113pmol/l of estradiol ranges <0-160> than on 75 pmol/l? same ranges.


Optimal range is about 50-80? So that should be contrariwise..


This is my example of effect of arimidex..

dose 0,5MG/day lowered my estradiol from 120 to 25 <0-160> after only one week

dose 0,25/twice a week lowered my estradiol from 115 to 75 also after one week

[Swifto]

One question to you

Do you know why I feel better on about 113pmol/l of estradiol ranges <0-160> than on 75 pmol/l? same ranges.


Optimal range is about 50-80? So that should be contrariwise..


This is my example of effect of arimidex..

dose 0,5MG/day lowered my estradiol from 120 to 25 <0-160> after only one week

dose 0,25/twice a week lowered my estradiol from 115 to 75 also after one week

You sure it Arimidex. Not Letro or Aromasin.

Pharm Grade? Astra Zeneca?

Too low an estrogen levels can limit gains, cause labido and cholesterol problems aswell as CNS issues.

[pepous]

You sure it Arimidex. Not Letro or Aromasin.

Pharm Grade? Astra Zeneca?

Too low an estrogen levels can limit gains, cause labido and cholesterol problems aswell as CNS issues.

No it is L-dex.. do you think it is overdosed?

it is curious but I feel better when I am a little bit high on estrogen. :-)

[DOM6]

why do i feel shut down just on test on wk 2?

[pepous]

why do i feel shut down just on test on wk 2?

1. fake gear
2. long ester ( but personally I feel sustanon after 3 days... on frontload dose 500mg)

3. low dose